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Author Topic:   Dissecting the Evolutionist Approach to Explanation and Persuation
DBlevins
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Message 43 of 255 (293290)
03-08-2006 12:56 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by roxrkool
03-08-2006 12:23 PM


Re: do we have to teach science, too?
The problem I think I have seen with many explanations that are given by the scientists on this board is that they neglect to address the basic misunderstandings that creationists have. It might be time consuming to go over Lyell's Principles, or explain Malthus, but it may have to be done to help bridge the gap in knowledge between the scientist and the creationist.
I don't think its unfortunate that indeed, we'll have to 'teach' science. It may be tedious but at least there can be some communication going on. The flood hypothesis doesn't need a PhD to explain why it won't work. A presentation of the data, much like you did for faith earlier, can help but you may also need to explain 'why' we came up with those conclusions. What does aeolian mean. What does it reflect in climate. Why would we see carbanaceous rock in the middle of what is a desert now. The scientist may need to reach back in memory to her or his early college or high school years to present those first inferences made to support the data they have now.

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DBlevins
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Message 73 of 255 (293339)
03-08-2006 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Chiroptera
03-08-2006 1:23 PM


Re: do we have to teach science, too?
You're right that I was attempting to explain that I thought a more detailed explanation of the theories was needed. It also probably needs to be done starting from the most basic level. I honestly think many on this board, like you, have tried to explain the theories to this level but are either ignored or the posts are lost in the shuffle of response and rebuttle (if we can call it that.) Many of those excellent posts get so lost or overlooked that they're neglected even though they are worthy of POTM nominations.
You, Sylas, Roxrkool, RAZD, jar, crashfrog and many other contributors have written excellent posts that do much toward an attempt to explain the how's and why's of the many theories placed under the creationist hammer. I just think many of them get lost, or ignored in a quick tit for tat posting frenzy, often caused by over reactions to percieved slights (though I think many are often calculated attempts to shift the issue). I really believe that piling on of posts really doesn't help the situation and makes those most excellent posts that much easier to get lost or ignored.
Of course, I really wish it were so easy (I am probably over simplifying or just plain WRONG!!! )

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