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Author Topic:   The Impossibility Of The Flood
lyx2no
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Message 91 of 100 (561283)
05-19-2010 6:52 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by ICANT
05-19-2010 2:35 AM


Re: Flood
I was dead for 3 hours and 20 minutes.

Wow! And no brain damage?


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Message 92 of 100 (561302)
05-19-2010 8:33 PM
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05-19-2010 6:52 PM


Re: Flood
And no brain damage?

What in the world makes you think that?!?


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It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate


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Message 93 of 100 (561332)
05-20-2010 12:27 AM
Reply to: Message 90 by Dr Adequate
05-19-2010 6:34 PM


Re: Application Of Data
Dr Adequate writes:

Buzsaw writes:

No. Not correct. All that is there is debatable and remains the ongoing debate in the science arena, according to premise and thesis of interpretation of the geological/biological data observed. Both camps apply the same data in determinations.

Don't be silly.

If you think the above is silly you need to show why you think it's silly. Otherwise you're blindly asserting that it's silly.


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Message 94 of 100 (561334)
05-20-2010 12:28 AM
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05-19-2010 8:33 PM


Re: Flood
What in the world makes you think that?!?

Ya, got me. Bare assertion isn't my friend.


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Message 95 of 100 (561338)
05-20-2010 12:44 AM


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Buzsaw
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Message 96 of 100 (561343)
05-20-2010 12:58 AM
Reply to: Message 86 by Taq
05-19-2010 1:00 PM


Re: Application Of Natural Events
Taq writes:

Let's approach this from a different angle. What type of geologic feature could the flood NOT produce? Can you describe a single one?

1) It would not produce a climate as warm as pre-flood.
2) It would not produce the same atmosphere, given the volumn of water to accomodate a flood of this magnitude.
3) It would not produce the same elements in the atmosphere of a pre-flood planet which is implicatied due to the volumn of H2O in play
4) It would not produce the same sun rays on the planet as post flood.
5) It would not produce relative uniformity in calculating dating methodology nor would it produce acurate dating data of present dating methodology used.
6) It would not produce similar weather as pre-flood.
7) It would not produce a rainbow-less atmosphere.
8) It would not produce as long a life as that of a warmer uniform atmosphere which filtered out less healthy sun rays.
9) It would not produce as level a planet surface as pre-flood.
10) It would not produce small shallower oceans as would be pre-flood.
11) It would not produce warm polar regions void of ice.
12) It would not produce large continents compared to pre-flood.
13) It would not produce nearly (by far) as little carbon on the planet and it's atmosphere, due to volcanic eruptions, etc.
14. It would not produce the same sub-terrain as pre-flood.

These are a few examples of what it would not produce. Taq. Thanks for asking. I see you got a well deserved fiver for that.

Edited by Buzsaw, : change wording


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Message 97 of 100 (561346)
05-20-2010 1:02 AM


contents deleted by Buzsaw

Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.


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Message 98 of 100 (561347)
05-20-2010 1:05 AM
Reply to: Message 96 by Buzsaw
05-20-2010 12:58 AM


Re: Application Of Natural Events
It would not produce relative uniformity in calculating dating methodology nor would it produce acurate dating data of present dating methodology used

How would the flood cause all the dating methods to be wrong and yet still agree with eachother? show your math.

edit: you can provide your evidence for this assertion in another thread

Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.


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Message 99 of 100 (561350)
05-20-2010 1:18 AM
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05-20-2010 1:05 AM


Re: Application Of Natural Events
DrJones writes:

How would the flood cause all the dating methods to be wrong and yet still agree with eachother? show your math

Doc, all methods assume a relative uniform planet. I would assume that perhaps all forms would be skewed, though I'm not able to confirm.


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Message 100 of 100 (561351)
05-20-2010 1:30 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by Adminnemooseus
05-20-2010 12:44 AM


At best, topic needs a fresh start...
and a clearly defined theme and a good topic title that reflects that them.

Closing down.

Adminnemooseus

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Fix typo ("them" to "theme").


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