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Author Topic:   Balancing Faith and Science
dsv
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Message 12 of 137 (222015)
07-05-2005 9:58 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by GDR
07-05-2005 5:31 PM


Re: Science and Faith in Harmony
C'mon now. Are you saying that all scientists agree on all aspects of science. There is probably as many disagreements in the science community as there are in the religious community.
He means they all agree on the scientific method. That is "one science."
Religion and the scientific method do not work. That doesn't mean one can't be both spiritual and scientific in different areas of life, but I don't think you can be both scientific and spiritual about one specific element.

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dsv
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Message 14 of 137 (222023)
07-05-2005 10:39 PM
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07-05-2005 10:11 PM


Re: Science and Faith ARE in Harmony
I agree. I appologize actually, my post was unclear. I used the term "spiritual" because it was the term being used in the thread. I was specifically refering to organized religion.
I believe there are clear conflicts in subscribing to organized religion and the scientific method. The only way to resolve this, I feel, would be to pick and choose what parts of a religion you believe to be true or simply take the religion at the value of teachings, lessons and uplifting community not necessarily as real fact.
Sure, Stephen Hawking believes in God, but would you call him a Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, etc?

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dsv
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Message 16 of 137 (222027)
07-05-2005 11:00 PM
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07-05-2005 10:42 PM


Re: Science and Faith ARE in Harmony
I suppose you CAN if you really want to. People can do whatever they want. I can choose to believe that the Earth is most certainly 100% flat except when it's round.
You're saying there's absolutely no conflicts to be resolved?

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dsv
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Message 18 of 137 (222032)
07-05-2005 11:19 PM
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07-05-2005 11:07 PM


Re: Science and Faith ARE in Harmony
Between religion and science? No.
Wow, it's very surprising that there are so many debates on this forum then.
What possible conflict do you think there might be between Science and Religion?
That's a pretty long list depending on which religion in question. How about the age of the Earth?

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dsv
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Message 20 of 137 (222036)
07-05-2005 11:43 PM
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07-05-2005 11:27 PM


Re: Science and Faith ARE in Harmony
I already knew that was your view, but I don't think you can say that is the consensus of organized Christianity.

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dsv
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Message 24 of 137 (222048)
07-06-2005 1:51 AM
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07-06-2005 1:32 AM


Re: Science and Faith ARE in Harmony
I think the vast majority of your everyday Christians never think about it and have never given it any kind of thought. They don't know or care about the age of the Earth. Furthermore, they don't know all that much about their religion except that it's a routine and it's "just what good people do."
There seems to be a consensus that is passed down through the ranks and is expressed from the more prominent religious leaders that does disagree with science on various issues, including in some cases the age of the Earth.
I feel they represent the religion and if you're participating and paying, you're supporting and endorsing, just like with any organization.

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