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Faith Science - Logically Indefensible

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ringo
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Message 134 of 166 (362282)
11-06-2006 9:53 PM 		Reply to: Message 133 by foxjoe
11-06-2006 9:47 PM

Re: Templeton
Why do you conflate "faith" with "Christian" and with "fundamentalism"?
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Message 136 of 166 (362287)
11-06-2006 10:12 PM 		Reply to: Message 135 by foxjoe
11-06-2006 10:02 PM

Re: Templeton
foxjoe writes:
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I believe (with some evidence) that Christians that are not fundamentalists, doesn't fit my definition of Christianity.
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Well, you don't get to make up your own definitions, so we can dispense with that right away.
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The topic here is essentially: Faith and science - Do they mix? So forget "Christian" and forget "fundamentalist". What's the problem with faith and science?
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Message 140 of 166 (362292)
11-06-2006 10:26 PM 		Reply to: Message 138 by foxjoe
11-06-2006 10:19 PM

Re: Templeton
foxjoe writes:
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There you go, not too hard.
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That's because you're misunderstanding the question.
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I don't care if you think faith is stupid. A lot of scientists would disagree with you.
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Stated more simply for you, the question is: Why can't a person of faith be a scientist?
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And for extra credit: How do you explain the people of strong faith who are scientists?
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Message 142 of 166 (362294)
11-06-2006 10:37 PM 		Reply to: Message 141 by foxjoe
11-06-2006 10:27 PM

Re: Templeton
foxjoe writes:
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I didn't say faith was stupid. I said it was a stupid word.
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Fine. So answer the questions:
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Why can't a person of faith be a scientist?
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and:
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How do you explain the people of strong faith who are scientists?
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Message 146 of 166 (362306)
11-06-2006 11:36 PM 		Reply to: Message 143 by foxjoe
11-06-2006 11:25 PM

foxjoe writes:
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See, now isn't that easy?
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Oh, you are new, aren't you? Nothing is ever easy with me.
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Dawkins explained it pretty plainly in his book.
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What if I don't have faith in Dawkins?
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One person may practice one or other thing as a hobby, just not at the same time with the same respect.
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That's what I'm saying: As long as one practises religion in church and science in the lab, where's the conflict? You still haven't explained the people of faith who are scientists.
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11-07-2006 7:58 PM 		Reply to: Message 157 by foxjoe
11-07-2006 7:34 PM

Re: "Person of faith"
foxjoe writes:
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Scientists that work their whole life and still go to church, aren't necessarily religious.
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That's starting to sound pretty silly: A scientist who goes to church is "no true Christian".
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Maybe Answers In Genesis is paying you to come here and make evos look bad.
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