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RAZD
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Message 8 of 55 (103555)
04-28-2004 10:42 PM


Ted Holden and Neander DNA
From ted holden's website at:
http://www.bearfabrique.org/evorants/neander_Matternes.html
Again, despite looking much like us, neanderthals were vastly different genetically. Their DNA has been described as "about halfway between ours and that of a chimpanzee", cleanly eliminating them as a plausible ancestor for modern man.
According to Sylas, Ted has been informed that this is erroneous, that the Neander DNA is as different from chimp DNA as our is, as well as ours being too different from the Neander to be true if there were any interbreeding or other relationships. Think of an isosceles triangle.
Certainly Ted earns the epithet of creatortionista in my books, as he has posted false information on his website that he should know is false by your communication with him referenced above. This makes him an "Example of Dishonesty" too.

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RAZD
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Message 46 of 55 (104605)
05-01-2004 6:25 PM


ted aka redwolf
a current example of blatant dishonesty is
http://EvC Forum: Racial Evolution 101
{{additional info added by edit}}
First, to repeat a post of something that has been discussed on another thread, where the content has been challenged on that thread but not answered by the poster in question, is intellectual dishonesty. Redwolf did this on {Racial evolution 101, thread post #100}, which I pointed out there with my post #102. He then responded with the post in question, stating:
Posting links to your claim to have debunked something of mine without also posting links to my clear refutation or your lame attempt at debunking is basically dishonest.
(1) Every post is linked to it's replies so there is no cause for complaints of not giving links.
(2) Two of the three posts I listed were unanswered, the third had a weak response that was refuted by a further post of mine that also went unanswered. Thus there was no "clear refutation" of any of the 3 posts that had been listed - there wasn't any refutation - and to claim such is blatantly dishonest.
[This message has been edited RAZD, 05-02-2004]

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RAZD
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Message 50 of 55 (104757)
05-02-2004 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by AdminSylas
05-02-2004 4:24 AM


Re: Watch it, RAZD - okay?
understood. I have edited the post in question to present the case for what I feel is dishonest about it.

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Message 51 of 55 (104760)
05-02-2004 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Syamsu
05-02-2004 4:15 AM


Re: ted aka redwolf
Post in question has been edited per (admin?)sylas for more information specifying the dishonesty in question: claiming to have refuted an argument when in fact there was NO response. That is not just being lazy.
Enjoy.

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RAZD
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Message 52 of 55 (104855)
05-03-2004 1:53 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by Syamsu
05-02-2004 4:15 AM


et tu syamsu?
Now you are being dishonest.
I did not just deny it was a dinosaur, I showed why it could not be the dinosaur that ted\redwolf said it was -- pointing out the places where the picture simply does not match the dinosaur, where it cannot match the picture. This was done in three different instances and not one of them has been answered (one (#29) had one weak response (#33) that was followed by more evidence that it just could not be so (#35) which has also gone unaswered).
I called ted\redwolf dishonest for claiming to have "clearly refuted" my posts when in fact he had made NO response.
Enjoy your fantasy.
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