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Lithodid-Man
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Message 33 of 238 (422841)
09-18-2007 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Modulous
09-18-2007 12:30 PM


Problem with quotemines...
The quote is from:
Ayala, F.J./Dobzhansky, T., eds. 1974. Studies in the Philosophy of Biology: Reductionism and Related Problems. New York: Macmillan.

However, I either do not still have a copy of this or it is packed away. As is typical with quote-mined material the actual source is vague. Did Dobzhansky say this, or another essayist in the book? Was it said as a direct statement or as an example of a contrary position? I would appreciate it anyone out there who may have access to this could look it up!


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Lithodid-Man
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Message 56 of 238 (422956)
09-18-2007 10:17 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Hyroglyphx
09-18-2007 9:12 PM


Re: A schitzophrenic theory: the creation of a smear
Apologize for going ot, but these kinds of things need to be said. This is by the author of A Study of American Intelligence a mere seven years after writing the chilling words NJ quotes above
Carl Bingham writes:

"Comparative studies of various national and racial groups may not be made with existing tests...one of the most pretentious of these, my own, is without foundation"
- Carl Bingham quoted in Marks, Russel (1972) Testers, Trackers, and Trustees: The Ideology of the Intelligent Testing Movement in America, 1900-1954. University Microfilms.

Also I have a paper from the journal School Review by Frank N. Freeman (1923) that absolutely crushes the Bingham book based on then-understood concepts in evolutionary biology and statistics. Freeman's main critique is that Bingham does not, in 217 pages, even discuss the possibility that differential education could play a part! (Freeman, FN (1923) An Evaluation of American Intelligence Vol 38, No 8. Pg 627-628.)


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Lithodid-Man
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Message 103 of 238 (423853)
09-24-2007 4:24 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by CTD
09-24-2007 9:35 AM


Sexual selection
CTD writes:

Oh? And who was it came up with the term 'sexual selection'? Do you know the name of that famous creationist by chance? Or is it maybe a touch subjective? (Careful! One of those was a trick question.)

Ummm, Charles Darwin, 1871, Descent of Man and Selection in Relation to Sex. I can see by your wording you are attempting to make us believe you have some knowledge on this subject that we do not, but you are wrong. Also, do yourself a favor and look up the word subjective in a good dictionary.

To repeat what has been said over and over in this thread, please demonstrate how the ToE is inherently racist or leads to racism as a logical conclusion, naming racists who may or may have not been evolutionists is not evidence.


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