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Author Topic:   Evolution is antithetical to racism
anglagard
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Message 7 of 238 (422569)
09-17-2007 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
09-16-2007 10:19 PM


Another Way to Look at It
jar writes:

The fact is that the Theory of Evolution is antithetical to the concept of racism. As we learn more, particularly in the field of genetics, it becomes increasingly obvious that there is almost no difference between humans of any kind, and in fact far less difference between humans and apes, or even humans and pond scum, than anyone imagined.

Another way to view how the ToE is against racism is that all humans that currently exist are equally adapted to their environment. ABE - in general as the sum of a group, not necessarily applicable to down to individual level such as in cases of genetic disease.

Actually, the social science research I am familiar with verifies my personal experience regarding an opposite relationship. Namely that it is fundamentalism, which rejects the ToE, that has the high correlation with authoritarianism and racism. I think this is often shown by some posters here who often 'accidentally' let slip their own views.

Of course going into more detail would be the opposite of this thread and therefore would require its own topic.

Edited by anglagard, : No reason given.


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza


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anglagard
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Message 12 of 238 (422735)
09-18-2007 2:59 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Doddy
09-18-2007 2:27 AM


Re: Arguing just for the sake of arguing here...
doddy writes:

So, instead of just laughing at me perhaps you should start to tell me WHY I am wrong, so that those who are a little less astute can know why you are laughing at me.

Well, since jar is asleep and I'm stuck being awake until my pants dry, I may as well give it a shot.

Racism means distinguishing and discriminating between and amongst people because this given person looks, acts, or has a different historic background than the perpetrator of racism, generally, but not limited to the 'ruling class.' As you should notice, the term racism is limited to the interaction among the human species.

Specie-ism refers to the difference between humans and non-human animals and is usually associated with the agenda of PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) as meaning that all animals (as opposed to plants, fungi, and bacteria) have equal rights to humans.

Please stop confusing racism with specie-ism, which is off topic in this thread. If you would like to introduce a PNT as to why specie-ism is either immoral or moral, please feel free to do so. However you may want to remember that the founders of PETA are hypocrites as they have personally benefited from animal research and that 2/3 of the animals they 'rescue' are euthanized, or in the vernacular, killed.

Edited by anglagard, : clarity of choice


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza


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anglagard
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Message 171 of 238 (425391)
10-02-2007 5:16 AM
Reply to: Message 170 by CTD
10-02-2007 4:52 AM


Re: Evolutionism has struck out
CTD writes:

As I've thrice defeated the original nonsense I think that's enough. It's not hard to gauge the spirit of those who continue to participate. They're not here to learn, but to propagandize and insult; I've see enough of that.

In your mind, not in fact.

Strike 1 If evolutionism were antithetical to racism, it would contribute in a rational, logical manner to arguments against racism while providing no support for racism. It doesn't do this.

Technically evolutionism is not a real word recognized by spell checking so I assume you are referring to the Theory of Evolution. As has been pointed out ad nauseum, the ToE has nothing to say about racism.

Strike 2 The claim that evolutionism doesn't support racism has been handily defeated by history.

It has been misused by people to justify racism in the past. So has the Bible and patriotism.

Strike 3 The goalposts were moved, and Huxley managed to find the zone with his curveball, demonstrating that evolutionism logically leads to racism.

Whatever this means, IMO it has not been shown to anyone's satisfaction except your own.

Oh yes, and calling me a racist is what I predicted. Ooooh what a clever trap. And how clever of you to step into it yourselves! You stinking eugenecists are the racists.

But I must revise my previous equasion: eugenecists = gutter racists. That's more accurate. You're less respectable because you try to hide your racism rather than having the guts to say what you are and face your enemies. You're smaller men than skinheads.

If I ever want to be insulted by cowards again, I sure know where to find them. Worse luck next time.

Declare victory despite evidence, call anyone who disagrees names despite forum guidelines, and then run off while calling all who disagree cowards. How many times as that happened before around here?


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza


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