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Author Topic:   How can Biologists believe in the ToE?
Taz
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Message 4 of 304 (392715)
04-01-2007 9:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by nator
04-01-2007 9:06 AM


nator writes:
I would like those who reject the ToE to explain how they reconcile their rejection with the logical implications regarding scientists I have listed above.
I'd like to point out that their rejection of ToE also undermines the many many scientific progress over the decades that have saved and fed millions and millions of lives. These same idiots who believe in ToE also created anti-biotics, genetic engineering, and the myriad of other things that define a modern and developed society.

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Taz
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Message 35 of 304 (393681)
04-06-2007 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by nator
04-06-2007 9:04 AM


Re: Re-Questions
nator writes:
Do you think that people with PhD's in Biology are stupid?
I vaguely remember someone on here repeatedly making the claim that biologists are not stupid, they just don't have "god-sight"... or something like that.
I also saw on CNN Larry King where he invited a reverend creationist on the show. The reverend said that he's been to a university a few times and have found that while it had a lot of knowledge there was no wisdom at all. Larry King asked him what he meant by wisdom and the reverend said that wisdom was seeing god as the driving force behind everything.
So, clearly, at least some creationists are not saying biologists are stupid. They're just saying that biologists don't have the so-called god-sight. And thank goodness for that!

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Taz
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Message 46 of 304 (398759)
05-02-2007 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by riVeRraT
05-02-2007 10:13 AM


Re: Re-ToE
riverrat writes:
So it's ok to believe in ToE, and creation?
See, this is what I don't understand about you and other creationists. According to you, there was a world wide flood that killed off everything except for Noah's family and the creatures that lived onboard his ark. There are around 2 million species known to us, and let's not forget the ones that haven't been discovered yet. Either Noah had 4 million animal on his ark for a whole year or he only had a few "kinds" and that these animal hyper-evolved into all the species we have today.
So, do you believe Noah had 4 million animal on his ark or not? If not, then surely you must believe in some kind of evolution to explain all the biodiversity we see today.

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Taz
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Message 127 of 304 (420133)
09-06-2007 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 124 by nator
09-06-2007 7:32 AM


Re: don't let Vashgun get us off topic
Nator, I once asked this question to my mother (a devout christian fundamentalist and creationist). Her answer was easy and precise. The theologians have been studying god for a lot longer than the biologists have been studying living things.
In the long run, I don't think your question will actually take us anywhere because there is just too much potential for the soundbite effect to take place.
Soundbite effect: phrases that sound good on the outside but makes no sense when are critically analyzed. Unfortunately, MOST people would lean toward the soundbite phrases because MOST people are lazy thinkers.

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