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Author Topic:   What got into Hoyle?
cavediver
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Message 15 of 38 (398560)
05-01-2007 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by NosyNed
05-01-2007 11:51 AM


Re: The Reasons....
Hoyle's desire for the Steady State cosmology came from the aesthetics of the assumptions of homogeneity (translation invariance) and isotropy (rotational invariance) - simplified, that's 'looks the same in all places and in all directions'.
Hoyle thought that space-translation invariance alone was rather against the spirit of relativity, and time-translation invariance should be included. The SS was an attempt to salvage this desire from the rather upsetting observation of the expansion of the Universe. The BB was a rather extremem example of a complete lack of time-translation invariance and was anathema to Hoyle. The potentially religious overtone of BB was also disturbing.
I must stress that this is second-hand information - I personally never knew or even met Hoyle - but I (sort of ) trust the source and it's backed up by what I have read in his work.
regarding his views on evolution, I must admit I have no clue as to their source.
Edited by cavediver, : No reason given.

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cavediver
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Message 26 of 38 (398674)
05-02-2007 3:49 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Hyroglyphx
05-01-2007 5:30 PM


Re: The Reasons....
If you're willing to sit down and peruse through the objections against the SS model, here is a link. Here is another link outlining the objections against the BB theory. Both are very dry information for a layman like me, so I wouldn't blame you for losing interest.
Maybe, but I would still hope that the interested layman would have no trouble differentiating these two pieces - one is a piece of formal science, presented casually; the other is a layman touting someone else's work... badly. Or am I being too hopeful? What was your honest opinion, Nem?

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cavediver
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Message 27 of 38 (398675)
05-02-2007 3:54 AM
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05-01-2007 1:03 PM


Re: The Reasons....
So in other words, Hoyle felt the universe should appear the same across all eras of time?
Yes.
Do I have this right?
That certainly seem to be the case. And it's no accident that he found company with Arp in the latter days, and they have a number of joint publications.
And yes, Hoyle and gang certainly made

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