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Author Topic:   The Interpretation of Evidence Colored by "GodSenseless" worldview
jar
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Message 29 of 74 (151435)
10-20-2004 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by pink sasquatch
10-20-2004 5:26 PM


Re: fielding wrath
As an example, I know of no mechanic who considers Divine intervention as the source of a car not starting - wouldn't that also trigger wrath?
Never owned an English car or bike, eh?
Joseph Lucas = Prince of Darkness.
(courtesy of Paul Mossberg, New Jersey Replicar Club, February 2001)
The Lucas motto: "Get home before dark."
Lucas denies having invented darkness. But they still claim "sudden, unexpected darkness."
Lucas--inventor of the first intermittent wiper.
Lucas--inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.
The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF. The other three switch settings--SMOKE, SMOLDER and IGNITE.
The original anti-theft devices--Lucas Electric products.
"I've had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have never experienced any prob...
If Lucas made guns, wars would not start either.
Did you hear about the Lucas powered torpedo? It sank.
It's not true that Lucas, in 1947, tried to get Parliament to repeal Ohm's Law. They withdrew their efforts when they met too much resistance.
Did you hear the one about the guy that peeked into a Land Rover and asked the owner "How can you tell one switch from another at night, since they all look the same?" "He replied, it doesn't matter which one you use, nothing happens!"
Back in the '70s Lucas decided to diversify its product line and began manufacturing vacuum cleaners. It was the only product they offered which didn't suck.
Quality Assurance phoned and advised the Engineering guy that they had trouble with his design shorting out. So he made the wires longer.
Why do the English drink warm beer? Lucas makes the refrigerators.
Alexander Graham Bell invented the Telephone.
Thomas Edison invented the Light Bulb.
Joseph Lucas invented the Short Circuit.
Recommended procedure before taking on a repair of Lucas equipment: check the position of the stars, kill a chicken and walk three times sunwise around your car chanting: "Oh mighty Prince of Darkness protect your unworthy servant."
Lucas systems actually uses AC current; it just has a random frequency.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 46 of 74 (152137)
10-22-2004 9:15 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Cold Foreign Object
10-21-2004 8:01 PM


WILLOWTREE
This is narrow minded fascist repressive medieval religion, known today as scientism, the same business on the other side of the street, and you are a rank and file brainwashed member.
That is an uncalled for assertion. It added nothing to the discussion and is also totally unsupported.
You believe scientific methodologies are the ONLY avenue to determine truth.
Unless you can define what you mean by truth, that is a meaningless statement.
There are things that can best be answered by science. Some examples are
  • the age of the earth.
  • the age of the universe.
  • the age of fossils
  • whether or not some town was occuppied during a particular period.
  • who built the pyramids.
  • what the longest land meridian is.
  • stellar distances.
  • geography.
There are also things which science cannot adequately address. Some examples are
  • the existence of a GOD or Gods.
  • the non-existence of GOD or Gods.
  • morality.
  • ethics.
  • questions related to WHY something exists.
You do not seem to outline what it is YOU are addressing when you mention things such as truth. Before anyone can even debate such issues it will be necessary for you to define your terms.
It would be a good idea for you to return to the OP. There, Ned lays out some basic steps.
NosyNed writes:
I suggest that to support this claim WT should give a specific example where there is a big difference between two opposing points of view.
Then he can show the evidence that exists that both sides can agree on.
Then he can discuss the "scientific" ("god sense removed") interpretation. Following that he can show a different interpretation and show why the first interpretation is directly influenced by the "wrong" worldview.
So, can you give us one specific example. Then can you provide evidence that both sides can agree even exists. Finally, can you show how having a given worldview effects the interpretation of evidence.
So far, you have provided no evidence. You have cut & pasted assertions from Milton, but they are simply assertions. There is no evidence involved.
Can you pick, as a beginning point, one specific case?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 51 of 74 (153198)
10-26-2004 11:04 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Cold Foreign Object
10-26-2004 10:51 PM


Try to stay on topic...
and please try to at least get your facts straight when you do once again wander off topic.
In Albania, if you are not an atheist you are subject to death.
Yet another incorrect assertion. Here is a link to the Albanian Orthodox Church.

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