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mark24
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Message 7 of 47 (108144)
05-14-2004 5:29 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by almeyda
05-14-2004 4:23 AM


Re: The rules of the game
Almeyda,
Science works via the hypothetio-inductive method whereby an observation is made, & a hypothesis is inductively derived. This is about as far as creationism & supernaturalism goes. The important step is to deductively test your hypothesis, & accept potential falsifications.
Creationism stops at the first post post. It has no deductive tests, just lots of inductively derived hypotheses that have no potential falsification.
What you describe is methodological naturalism. Can you give an example of any physical discovery that has affected mankind for the better that arose via methodological supernaturalism?
Consider the following scenario: two rabbits sit next to each other in a field, I hypothesise that they are talking to each other. Since rabbits alone can't talk, they must be rabbit gods. I capture the rabbits but those cunning rabbit gods refuse to be caught talking, nor do they wish to be exposed as gods by acting as anything but ordinary rabbits.
My hypothesis cannot be tested, nor can it be falsified. The rabbits might be gods, but since I have no way of telling either way, the explanation has no efficacy. So it is with creationism.
The hard core creationist like yourself will accept no falsification of their ideas. I have shown you that the odds of the K-T tektites not being 65 million years old are 70,000,000 : 1. Do you accept it? No, of course not, you just ignore it. I have shown you that the fossil record supports evolution to a colossal degree, do you accept it? No, you just ignore it & carry on like it didn't exist.
This is typically creationist. You, & they, assume they are right before the evidence is presented, then refuse to accept it when it contradicts them.
Where would we be if real science worked this way? We would still be savages chucking spears at animals, unable to produce any surplus that would allow urbanisation & civilisation (agriculture requires the scientific method - methodological naturalism).
I'll take methodological naturalism any day. It works. Methodological supernaturalism is a misnomer, you can accept any untested, unfalsified bullpucky you like; & it hasn't produced a single positive outcome in science & technology that helps us today.
Mark

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mark24
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Message 24 of 47 (108213)
05-14-2004 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by almeyda
05-14-2004 12:31 PM


Re: The rules of the game
Almeyda,
What is it with you & bare links? Pick your single best example of creationist "good" science, & argue your case in your own words.
I'll happily take you on on the subject of birds or dating. Oop, already have taken you on on dating, that refutes everything in AiG, no less. You had no comment to make if I remember correctly.
Mark
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