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Author Topic:   No evolution/creation debate in Europe
jar
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Message 8 of 107 (442449)
12-21-2007 10:34 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Buzsaw
12-21-2007 10:17 AM


Re: Schools
There is nothing to teach about Intelegent Design Buz. There is no ID model.
The only possible model ID has is a financial one designed to get gullible Christian Cult of Ignorance and Communion of Bobbleheads to send bucks. That is the sum and substance of the Intelligent Design proponents.

Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

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jar
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Message 9 of 107 (442450)
12-21-2007 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Buzsaw
12-21-2007 10:29 AM


In comes the Clown
Not only is all that nonsense off topic Buz, it is still absolutely nothing but a repetition of assertions you keep making but like your Biblical Prophecy and End Times crap have NEVER been able to support.

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Message 12 of 107 (442476)
12-21-2007 12:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by peracutus
12-20-2007 6:37 PM


You need to remember that it is all about MONEY
ID and Creationism have several major advantages that make them ideal commercial businesses, particularly in the US. You don't have to have and facts, you don't have to tell the truth even, you are not subject to "Truth in Advertising Laws" and even the Federal financial oversight is less than for other corporations.
The beauty of the ID and Creationism business are several fold. First it is an "Ethics Free Zone". There is no need to tell the truth or even correct fallacies when they are pointed out. The only requirement is that you tell the customers what they want to hear.
If you look at the business you find that the value of a PRATT (Point Refuted a Thousand Times) is still as high as before it was refuted, perhaps even higher. The only costs involved in the ID or Creationism Market is showmanship and the buyers have been trained since birth to know their eternal live depends on buying as much of the nonsense being sold as possible.

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Message 19 of 107 (442579)
12-21-2007 5:41 PM
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12-21-2007 5:34 PM


There in no Biblical model Buz.
I'm sorry Buz but simply linking to a post that was off topic and only filled with assertions you have NEVER been able to support is not anything but a waste of bandwidth.
The Biblical model is not a hindrance. It's an alternative science which has certain merits and offers alternative possibilities/hypotheses.
There is no Biblical model and it is NOT science. Your continued repeating falsehoods will never make them true.

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Message 36 of 107 (443021)
12-23-2007 1:30 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Archer Opteryx
12-23-2007 4:21 AM


Re: historical problems
There's another reason Europeans don't laugh as hard as the author of our OP imagines: they know the history. If the New World is disproportionately populated today by people who take religion very, very seriously, it is because European monarchs once took it seriously enough to imprison and kill their ancestors for theirs.
No where is this message clearer than in looking at English History. Beginning with Henry VIII and continuing down to the Act of Settlement (even beyond if the Jacobitism movement is considered) religion, absolute monarchy and power were the order of the day.
One interesting thing is that James II & VII while a supporter of Absolute Monarchy was also a supporter of Religious Freedom and to a great extent his deposition was as much to preclude religious tolerance as it was to attack absolute Monarchy.
We need to remember that the English who settled what became the US had known and lived under religious intolerance from The Act of Supremacy in 1534 until the end of the Jacobite Risings in 1746. The issue was NOT ancient history to them but rather very real and very immediate.

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