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Joe Meert
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Message 60 of 76 (13100)
07-08-2002 9:33 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Tranquility Base
07-08-2002 9:03 PM


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BTW - My thesis was passed without a single correction.
JM: Well, that speaks poorly of your thesis committee that they would not take the time to read it carefully. Having served on both ends of the process I find this claim patently absurd.
Then again, Hovind claims the same thing.
Cheers
Joe Meert
[This message has been edited by Joe Meert, 07-08-2002]

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Joe Meert
Member (Idle past 5707 days)
Posts: 913
From: Gainesville
Joined: 03-02-2002


Message 64 of 76 (13108)
07-08-2002 10:01 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by Tranquility Base
07-08-2002 9:57 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
Joe, Percy
It's pretty unusual I'll admitt but it was an unusual situation - I completed the last 25% of my nuclear physics PhD (and all the write up) after 4 years of experience as a publishing RA in structural biology. I was pleasantly surprised to not have to rebind.

JM: Ahh, rebind! Few of us have to rebind, but that does not mean no corrections. Certainly, your committee had changes before you submitted the final version. I find any claim to the contrary a lie.
Cheers
Joe Meert

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Joe Meert
Member (Idle past 5707 days)
Posts: 913
From: Gainesville
Joined: 03-02-2002


Message 66 of 76 (13113)
07-08-2002 10:19 PM
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07-08-2002 10:13 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
Joe
Sorry - absolutely zero corrections! It was rather straight forward work - nothing startling or controversial. The referee's comments where not glowing - I just had learned to play the game of writing up.

JM: As I mentioned before, this speaks poorly of your committee. I can't think of a similar claim ever being made except by Hovind. In my own experience, everyone has an opinion of science and a thesis defense gives the committee members a chance to sound off. Is your Ph.D. through an uncredited diploma mill?
Cheers
Joe Meert

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Joe Meert
Member (Idle past 5707 days)
Posts: 913
From: Gainesville
Joined: 03-02-2002


Message 70 of 76 (13158)
07-09-2002 9:53 AM
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07-09-2002 8:45 AM


Well, gee now it's gone from no corrections to 20 red marks and an added graph. Look, no matter how it's done, nobody (except Hovind) gets through without some changes. You've just admitted that there were changes made by your supervisor. In that case, it did not make it through without corrections.
Cheers
Joe Meert

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Joe Meert
Member (Idle past 5707 days)
Posts: 913
From: Gainesville
Joined: 03-02-2002


Message 72 of 76 (13239)
07-10-2002 8:16 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Tranquility Base
07-09-2002 9:58 PM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
[B]Fine Joe, I just found it hard to believe that you really thought I was saying my supervisor never put a pen to my manuscript! Are you saying Hovind made the claim his supervisor never made a correction? Ask him again with that in mind. I agree that would be bizaree and lazy on the part of a supervisor[/QUOTE]
JM: You bet that is exactly what you implied. Your supervisor is part of your committee! Hovind had no supervisor! Patriot University is a diploma mill that charges $100 for a Ph.D. Look, I am glad that you produced a nice dissertation, but your original claim was misleading. You were attempting to impress everyone here and it backfired.
Cheers
Joe Meert

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