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Author Topic:   $50 to anyone who can prove to me Evolution is a lie.
Dan Carroll
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Message 115 of 305 (51853)
08-22-2003 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by Zealot
08-22-2003 12:57 PM


Re: Premises
quote:
So if something cant be proved to be false, it cant be a valid 'scientific' hypothesis ?
You seem to be mixing up what this means. It doesn't mean you can prove something false, it means you can test whether or not it is false. For instance:
If you drop a rock out of your hands, and it falls up, it means the theory of gravity is incorrect.
In other words, gravity is falsifiable, but not false. This is a really oversimplified example, but you see my point.
On the other hand, if I tell you that there are invisible, intangible gremlins that don't smell like anything or make any sounds living in the president's underwear, there is no way to test this hypothesis. It would amount to, "No, you've just got to trust me on this one." Therefore, this hypothesis is not falsifiable, and not a valid hypothesis.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 119 of 305 (51875)
08-22-2003 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by Zealot
08-22-2003 3:46 PM


Re: Premises
What exactly does he say the connection is?

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Dan Carroll
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Message 121 of 305 (51895)
08-22-2003 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 120 by mark24
08-22-2003 5:10 PM


Re: Premises
Nope. Then the rock would stay in your hand, because you and the rock are falling toward the greater mass at an equal rate.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 188 of 305 (64573)
11-05-2003 3:48 PM
Reply to: Message 187 by youoweme50
11-05-2003 3:41 PM


Re: truth and nothing but the truth
quote:
#1, Either the Bible is true or it is false.
False dilemna.
There can be true elements in the bible without the entire book being true.
I'd address the rest of your post, but since (as a proof that evolution is false) it relies on a logical fallacy, there doesn't seem to be any real need.
[This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 11-05-2003]

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Dan Carroll
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Message 190 of 305 (64580)
11-05-2003 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 189 by youoweme50
11-05-2003 4:07 PM


Re: truth and nothing but the truth
quote:
The Bible says in 2 Tim 3:16 that "All Scripture is God-breathed."
So?
All that means is that 2 Tim 3:16 would have to be false for the Bible to be partly true.
The fallacy stands.
quote:
If the Bible were partly true how could you based any kind of faith on that?
Beats me. Probably why I don't believe in the bible. People seem to manage, though.
quote:
I challenge you to read the rest of my first reply before replying again.
Yeah, I read the whole thing. But it relies on a logical fallacy.
quote:
Praying for you....
That's nice of you. Thanks.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 193 of 305 (64585)
11-05-2003 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by IrishRockhound
11-05-2003 4:16 PM


Re: truth and nothing but the truth
quote:
I think Dan's looking for actual scientific evidence here...
I'd settle for logical, linear reasoning.
I've learned to set my standards low in these circumstances.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 201 of 305 (64929)
11-07-2003 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 200 by youoweme50
11-07-2003 10:52 AM


Re: God loves you and is sorry for what you had to go through.
Just a little hint... in the future, keep in mind that the truth will be more readily received when it's not wrapped up in logical fallacies, and it addresses (rather than ignores) the responses of others.
The way you deliver it, the truth just sounds like it can't stand on its own merits, let alone stand up in the face of a simple challenge.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 220 of 305 (67028)
11-17-2003 9:22 AM
Reply to: Message 215 by NosyNed
11-14-2003 7:24 PM


Re: sigh
quote:
If you don't like being in a knock-down, no holds bared, nothing spared debate then you dropped in to visit the wrong place.
I might also add... if you don't want to get slammed a plastic figure in a whack-a-mole game, don't come on guns-a-blazin', spouting off that everyone else is an ignorant fool, and that birds are mammals.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 233 of 305 (79786)
01-21-2004 11:09 AM
Reply to: Message 230 by Stephen ben Yeshua
01-21-2004 9:55 AM


Re: Lies, believing or telling
quote:
Sometimes telling lies enhances your reproductive success at the expense of the reproductive success of those who are taken in by your lie. Which proves my point, that believing lies costs reproductive success.
Out of curiosity, if a girl lies to a guy by saying, "go ahead, I'm on the pill," and he believes her, would his reproductive success go up or down?

"It isn't faith that makes good science, it's curiosity."
-Professor Barnhard, The Day the Earth Stood Still

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