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Author Topic:   Why Only Creationism So Politicized?
MrHambre
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Message 102 of 155 (72251)
12-11-2003 6:05 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by Mammuthus
12-11-2003 3:08 AM


You Can Lead a Corpse to Water
Mammuthus,

You and Mark have had your perspectives on this whole issue tainted by real exposure to the actual science involved. It's clear Syamsu wants to maintain the integrity of his opinions by avoiding contact with anything relevant to the subject.

Let's not forget the merely passing familiarity he demonstrates with Richard Dawkins's Selfish Gene. Despite the fact he considers the work one of the cornerstones of technical biological literature and evolutionary theory, he's never read past the title. That's why he asserts that Dawkins (and therefore evolutionary theory in general) believes people are 'born selfish' since they have this 'selfishness gene.' Even if you tried to explain to him Dawkins's admittedly reductionist but useful metaphor of genes using organisms for their own propagation, you'd get nowhere. Just ask zephyr and Primordial Egg.

So your lawyer trick of trying to get Sy to pollute his rational, objective criticism of evolutionary theory by actually educating himself in the subject is meaningless, as he has proved again and again in this thread and all the others. Your assertion that he has his head up his arse has been refuted. You should just go away.

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The dark nursery of evolution is very dark indeed.
Brad McFall

[This message has been edited by MrHambre, 12-11-2003]


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MrHambre
Member (Idle past 257 days)
Posts: 1495
From: Framingham, MA, USA
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 136 of 155 (73337)
12-16-2003 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 135 by mark24
12-16-2003 11:22 AM


Futility Personified
Mark24,

Syamsu writes:

Of course your total denial of the history of violent racism linked to the works of the most influential evolutionary biologists such as Lorenz, Haeckel and Darwin comes in handy now, to deny that there is any problem at all. And why stop denying there, why not deny the holocaust as well? That's the sort of people you side with, by denying any meaningful link between Darwinism and Social Darwinism, even when faced with overwhelming evidence to the contrary.


This paragraph is all you need to write this fool off as a waste of time. Let's not feed this troll any more. We have to realize that there will never be any progression to this debate. He has nothing constructive to add to any discussion of science, philosophy, or politics.

I don't know what offends me more, his comparing us to Holocaust deniers or his assertion that he has presented us with overwhelming evidence of anything except his own ignorance and intractability.

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The dark nursery of evolution is very dark indeed.
Brad McFall


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