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Isn't it better to teach what's right instead of what's easy?

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Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

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“Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place” -- Joseph Goebbels
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That says it all right there, doesn't it? Let's throw science out with the bath water.The topic is about teaching ID in science class. If you're going to dismiss science as "convoluted theories and dead ends", what's the point of teaching science at all?

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So what? You can't just cherry-pick the bits of science you like and throw out what you don't like. It's all interrelated. if you throw out the science of origins, you're throwing out all of it. You're welcome to bring that opinion to the science forums and back it up with facts. And there y'go, betraying your general disdain for science.

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You'll be expected to show how the accepted theories are "illogical" and how your ideas better explain the evidence. Your personal "acceptance" is worthless. Science works by consensus - and even the school boards who accept/reject science work by consensus. Only mindless fools prefer their own delusions to the tested conclusions of the collected best minds in the world. I know you have nothing. That's why you're afraid to back up your empty opinions in the science forums.

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Look harder. We are free to think what we like. Our thoughts are more likely to be accurate/useful if they agree with the thoughts of others.Those who trust their own thoughts too much are likely to turn out like Charles Manson. Do you really expect anybody to respect your individual "free thoughts" on science when you display such abject ignorance? What do atheists have to do with what we're discussing?

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I was responding to what you said in Message 33:

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I happen to have faith in the divine creation of the world we live in. For me, it's easier that way.

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You said that it was easier for you.I simply suggested that we should be teaching our children what's right, not what's easy for us. I quoted Jesus saying the same thing.As for persecution, it's probably not easy being a Muslim in a Christian majority or a Mormon in a Christian majority or a Jehovah's Witness in a Christian majority. In a country with many minorities, which version of ID would you teach? Could you really teach ID without the Designer looking like your personal God?In the end, once you've said, "That looks like it was designed," what else can you teach about ID? All you have left is partisan descriptions of what the Designer is like.

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I don't know if I'd emphasize "only" but I tend to agree. I've suggested in other threads that the original purpose of the levitical law was to provide a reliable food source for the priests. There may be some innate "need" for the spiritual in humans but religion per se is about the exploitation of that need.Similarly, the religion of creationism/ID is an exploitation of the human need to know. You can get "knowledge" to rival the best scientists in exchange for cash - and watching a video is a lot quicker than getting a degree.If we're going to teach ID in schools, we might as well teach every other get-rich-quick scam while we're at it.Edited by Ringo, : Speling.

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