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Spektical
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Message 110 of 337 (428516)
10-16-2007 4:33 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by bluegenes
09-29-2007 9:35 AM


Re: The Hammer Has Come Down
Just like the Koran, Gita and Torah, the bible's purpose was only to help the social evolution of humans...it should only be studied in a social history class that deals with how human societies evolved.

It is only human-made symbolism.


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Spektical
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Message 112 of 337 (428757)
10-17-2007 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by Dr Adequate
10-16-2007 7:14 PM


Re: The Hammer Has Come Down
First of all thank you for welcoming me :). Second, I guess teaching ideas like creationism in science class would force the educational system to redefine the scientific process, which is based on hypotheses that are rigorously tested and PROVEN. Now since nothing in the bible can be PROVEN, it would be impossible to test it. This of course implies that the purpose of the bible is to help a person exercise his/her faith muscles. However, faith in what exactly? I cannot blindly have faith in something I can't sense, not to mention my curiosity. How does it account for curiosity?

The religious way of thinking is cyclical and is meant to go nowhere. 'I have to believe in a god because I OWE him my love and I should just leave it at that?' Religion is ONLY a capitalistic tool.

So teaching it in school is equivalent to labotomizing our children for future assembly line livelihoods.

Thank you


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Spektical
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Message 114 of 337 (428762)
10-17-2007 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by macaroniandcheese
10-17-2007 3:22 PM


Re: The Hammer Has Come Down
By capitalism I meant the invention of money and the exchange of money between people...which is essentially the basis of capitalism. So really capitalism predates religion.

Also wanted to suggest the writings of Gerald Massey and the free film Zeitgeist.


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Spektical
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Message 117 of 337 (428769)
10-17-2007 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 115 by macaroniandcheese
10-17-2007 3:35 PM


Re: The Hammer Has Come Down
Why are you rolling your eyes re: zeitgeist...the movie is not completely accurate but its a good starting point to more accurate data/studies ie. gerald Massey.

If you think hard enough about the logic of religion, you'll notice that its nothing more than a catch 22 sales pitch.


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Spektical
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Message 119 of 337 (428783)
10-17-2007 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by macaroniandcheese
10-17-2007 4:02 PM


Re: The Hammer Has Come Down
Well you're definitely making me clarify myself :). What I meant by 'think hard' was just research.

And sure it is the flavour of the week....its not meant to be a permanent message anyways...just a means to help get humanity through a transitional period of self realization.


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Spektical
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Message 121 of 337 (428789)
10-17-2007 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 120 by macaroniandcheese
10-17-2007 4:18 PM


Re: The Hammer Has Come Down
I have moved on...when I was in 6th grade. Why all the hostility?

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Spektical
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Message 123 of 337 (428952)
10-18-2007 8:43 AM
Reply to: Message 122 by macaroniandcheese
10-17-2007 4:29 PM


Re: The Hammer Has Come Down
OmG dude ...who put the carrot in your ass?

Thanks for the pseudo-advice ahole...next time go out and get laid instead of venting your frustration of irregularity.

I don't and never have claimed to be better than anyone, but you for some wierd reason have this psycho notion that you know who I am, and have labeled me based on 2 posts!...So in actuality its u who hasn't either passed 6th grade or maybe even experienced puberty.


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Spektical
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Message 126 of 337 (428972)
10-18-2007 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 125 by AdminQuetzal
10-18-2007 9:22 AM


Re: The Hammer Has Come Down
My apologies for going too far, but I just couldn't take anymore of his berating. I don't mind criticism as I originally came to these forums to learn and discuss things.

I don't think ID should ever be put in schools, but instead should be made an official mythology story to join the rest of the greek stories.


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