The rise of faith schools

Actually it is true that YOU can't test it. But there are plenty of others who have for more expertise who can.

Because you have nothing to compare it with except events in the present, and because there is nothing formningin the present that is in fact quite like the geological column despite a few suggestive hints here and there such as the accumulation of sediments beside the continents which you can't know the date of for sure although millions of years it can't be. The principle of science is testability, and that requires that you be able to replicate your observation, or make observations that confirm it. You can't do that with the past. It's a one-way street. You can't replicate it and you can't set up a test for it. You can only make intelligent guesses, you can't confirm them.This message has been edited by Faith, 04-12-2006 12:41 PM

People, review the beginning of this topic. I presume there is a theme buried back there somewhere, and I suspect it isn't one relating to geology and such.Going to close this topic, if it does not get back on theme.AdminnemooseusEdit: Change ID to admin mode.This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 04-12-2006 12:44 PM

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well, Faith, not one thing you said is correct and we are proving that as we speak in the Grand Canyon thread.However, moose wants us to move back towards teaching so if you wish to continue, please join us in the GC thread.Oh, that's right. You can't post in the science side can you?Well, I'm trying to get that changed. It's time you actually had to defend some of your assertions.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

SO funny you think you can prove anything correct about the ancient past based on your observations of the characteristics of rocks in the present. Somebody weaves this fantastical story about the changing scene millions of years ago and you all fall down in obeisance, when it's nothing but a typical fantasy based on a few observations about the nature of the rocks. You guys are a riot. This message has been edited by AdminPD, 04-12-2006 01:55 PMThis message has been edited by Faith, 04-12-2006 04:18 PM

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Good joke. Don't let the low monotone voices fool you. They are hardly non-biased. See the list above.

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It's not a joke, it's fact.It has been consistently shown through independent research that people who listen to NPR are better informed and hold fewer falsse ideas and misconceptions about various subjects than those who listen to, say FOX News.

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Nonsense about your claim as "conservative". All you need to do to disprove your statement is to listen to Rush Limbaugh and see what the news people did not report, or how biased they were in reporting it. Regardless of what you may think of him, Rush does a good job of exposing media bias.

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Rush limbaugh is not a journalist, he's an "entertainer". And, he lies and distorts. Have you ever fact-checked what he says? I have.

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Time to turn the table.
What is your source of information that faith-based schools produce worse kids than public education? (since you want to establish a blanket national policy)

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I never said they did.You DID claim, however, that faith-based schools do produce better kids than non-faith based schools, so what I an asking you for is the research or statistics or analysis which supports it.If you only have your claim without any kind of data or stats to back it up, you are just claiming something without actually knowing if it has any basis in reality.It's just an assumption or belief or hunch on your part, and as such, I have no obligation to accept it as fact.I am perfectly willing to accept evidence that faith-based schools turn out better citizens, but you have to provide some.

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but there is clearly a liberal bias in the ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR sources.

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Then why don't they ever show the caskets of soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan?

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There is a separation of church and state and atheists like myself should not have to pay even more taxes that support things we don't believe in and find ridiculous.

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I do not believe in corporate welfare and I find it ridiculous, but I pay taxes to support it anyway.Not believing in something and finding it ridiculous is not an adequate reason to not having to pay your taxes to support something.Being agfainst the Constitution is the reason to not have to pay for it.

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Similarly, the schools don't seem to have a good curriculum, because the teachers in many cases don't understand and miscommunicate fundamental principles. This is verified by the polls that show that most kids don't buy it. If we can't get the public schools to teach this right, then how can you expect the Faith-based schools to teach a fact-based course?

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Maybe should outsource the teaching to another country and save money to boot.

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Maybe we should put our money where our mouths are and make public school funding equitable and not based upon something silly like property taxes.

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Maybe we should put our money where our mouths are and make public school funding equitable and not based upon something silly like property taxes.

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Amen.Did you know that this is a big issue in TX ?

Agreed Schraf...I was just pointing out that everyone has to pay for things they don't support

ThingsChange,It's a big issue in Illinois as well

Hi i'm new to the forums and i was wondering if anyone could help me on the fundings, and how much it cost to get into faith schools. How if someone that beleves in creation and disbeleves in evolution, so much how they should go to a private schools.
Thank you,
Cj

In case you are not aware, TX does not have a state income tax. Property owners pay for the bulk of state services.
The politicians love it because property appraisals are always going up, and therefore the revenue goes up without having to put a "tax increase" to a vote.The interesting part is the debate that is going on now. Every special interest is objecting to taxes that would affect them.
Cigarette taxes... they mostly affect the poor
Sales tax... ditto
Income tax ... too much bureacracy and does not balance the load
yada, yada, yadaAre these similar issues in IL ?