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Author Topic:   AntiGod education should not be compulsary (even for non wealthy)
AdminTL
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Message 175 of 281 (85248)
02-10-2004 11:24 PM
Reply to: Message 164 by simple
02-10-2004 2:49 AM


Repeated Assertions
hitchy writes:
I explained that evolution is not anti-god
14gipper writes:
But it is, guess it was a feeble explanation.
trixie writes:
This has been covered in another thread
14gipper writes:
sorry they didn't understand it very well.
Rule #2 of this forum reads, "Debate in good faith by addressing rebuttals through the introduction of new information or by providing additional argument. Do not merely keep repeating the same points without elaboration."
It appears to me that whenever you don't like something that's said, you simply assert that it's not true, or that it's just false on the surface, even though you must realize that those debating with you don't see it as false on the surface.
Here's an example of what I mean by asserting something is just false on the surface:
14gipper writes:
your godless idea of science is nonscense...You think you are, do you not, decended from flies, or sharing common ancestors with them? You think you should be allowed free reign with this on christian children?
Common ancestors with flies is indeed a teaching of evolution, and so obviously those who believe evolution should be taught in schools, which includes the majority of our local governments, all our state governments, and our federal government believe that this should be taught to Christian children. Asserting that this is nonsense is not debating.
14gipper writes:
your godless idea of science is nonscense, in that you don't want to drop your assumptions that you call evidence to mock God, and the same evidence and science that can be used to explain creation.
Another repeated and baseless assertion. Assertions such as this are to be supported with evidence. Until you do, then it is you who are putting forth assumptions.
People seem to be satisfied to continue debating you, which might just be because it would be too irritating to leave you with the last word, when that last word is just another baseless assertion, but if you registered, you agreed to try to debate in good faith. That means not just asserting, "I guess it was a feeble explanation." It's incumbent upon you to give reasons for what you're saying.
I'm not terribly satisfied myself with the following answer you gave, but hey, it was an attempt to explain your position:
14gipper writes:
It's anti God anti Christ, in that it tries to replace God's creation, with the creature creating itself, it leaves no room for the Savior, It says God is a liar, and it was designed to destroy faith in God.
At least this provides something to discuss and is more than a bare assertion. Maybe you can use this one as an example to follow in future responses.

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AdminTL
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Message 250 of 281 (87230)
02-18-2004 10:06 AM
Reply to: Message 246 by simple
02-13-2004 8:06 PM


Re: thread is closed
I'm glad you entitled your post thread is closed, because it almost surely needs to be. This last post gives up all attempt to answer anyone, and turns to a bizarre attempt at some ridiculous form of evangelism.
I tried to patiently explain it to you, it's not 2 versions.
No, you haven't. You have tried to tell us it's not two versions without any coherent reasoning behind it.
Also, Trixie's right. Perhaps you only meant to express yourself by pulling her quote out of context, but it's not ok to do that. (On the other hand, Trixie, it's not like anyone at all could possibly have been fooled by the misquote into thinking you were agreeing with him.)
I had already posted a couple answers to you before I saw your message 246. If you care to answer those or reasonably attempt to answer Trixie, you can have another shot at it. Otherwise, I'll just see the thread gets closed. This is going nowhere.

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Message 281 of 281 (88346)
02-24-2004 9:21 AM
Reply to: Message 280 by crashfrog
02-24-2004 2:44 AM


This topic has clearly degraded badly, and Gipper made all his points a very long time ago. In mercy to us all, I'm closing this topic.

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