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Author Topic:   AntiGod education should not be compulsary (even for non wealthy)
mike the wiz
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Message 18 of 281 (83358)
02-05-2004 11:11 AM


Dear fellow creo,
Hey Jazz'. We know you can think for yourself, everybody here does or they would not attend.
But to be honest (I'm creo), the statement " evolution is a religion " is best avoided. Why?
- Because,
1. It is a theory which holds nor religious principles or doctrine.
2. It deals with biology alone. Any learning of the theory shows us this, as you probably know.
3. It is based on "Theory" in the scientific sense of the word, and as we all know scientific theory is/can be negotiated, whereas religion cannot be amongst the religious.
So it's a bit like saying " Gravity is a religion "
If as creationists we say these things, our arguments will start to look desperate at best. I only tell you this because I've discovered how frustrating it can be when we creationists call evolutionists religious. That's not their ball park. Infact they don't really deal with it religiously, they literally are the antithesis of religious.
I agree God should be taught in schools, I've argued for the science class in the past (for creation), but the problem is it is also Philosophical and Theological as well as a bit of Science. Biology is only science. That might be the difference, humans enjoy categorizing, how do you categorize Creation?
Don't get me wrong, I too think there is scientific aspects to Apologetics, but at most - aspects.

mike the wiz
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Message 39 of 281 (83442)
02-05-2004 3:46 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by simple
02-05-2004 3:22 PM


Re: my opinion
Is this reply meant to be for me?
The theory it seems to me always has, since it's hatching, an agenda to paint God out of the picture.
I think the uneducated layman evo might take use of the TOE in this wrongful way, but mostly the TOE is only biological and scientific. It can seem like an atheistic dream come true, but the actual theory seems to only speak scientifically.
Remember, there are lots of people who are believers in God and the theory.

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mike the wiz
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Message 91 of 281 (83877)
02-06-2004 9:43 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by nator
02-06-2004 9:39 AM


Okay Schraff, go easy - don't get the grammar whip out, he/she is trying to type under quite a demand. It can be insulting, especially if you were simply in a rush!

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mike the wiz
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Message 95 of 281 (83901)
02-06-2004 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 93 by nator
02-06-2004 9:54 AM


Fair enough
Okay Schraf', I see your point, I'm trying to impress Asgara with my moderator potential.

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mike the wiz
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Message 97 of 281 (83914)
02-06-2004 11:38 AM
Reply to: Message 96 by NosyNed
02-06-2004 11:05 AM


Re: Fair enough
I was inclinded to argee with you Mike, I do have a serious spelling problem myself.
I'm not the greatest when it comes to grammar either Ned. But it's quite clear that it doesn't take any intelligence away from the person. However you are right to say:
In this particular context (that of education) it does look a little foolish doesn't it?
Yes, I'm afraid so. Maybe the individual could state that it is only their opinion concerning education, or maybe look into it the arguments shown here a bit more.
14Gipper said; "Good take it to some appriciative pagans, and leave the kids alone"
In response to me. I know I've acted a bit like Brad in the past but......is he trying to compete with me?
[This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 02-06-2004]

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mike the wiz
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Message 99 of 281 (83928)
02-06-2004 11:57 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by NosyNed
02-06-2004 11:44 AM


Darn it!! I think we shoud rename you Naughty Ned!
Setting traps for evil little creos like me.

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