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FliesOnly
Member (Idle past 2689 days)
Posts: 797
From: Michigan
Joined: 12-01-2003


Message 46 of 53 (220993)
06-30-2005 5:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by CaptRuss
02-03-2005 11:55 AM


Age: 44...soon to be 45 (yikes!)

State: Michigan (Go Blue!)

Marital Status: Married

Education level: MS Biology

Religious Affiliation: Grew up a Methodist, but was turned off when I was sent home from confirmation classes for asking too many questions. So I guess the current answer to the question is:…none.

Occupation: Currently an equipment/chemical/lab prep manager for a University, where I also do some teaching, as well as teaching an evening course at another University. However, I returned to school later in life, so I have held many other jobs.

Type: Methodological Materialist Evolution

Why: The overwhelming evidence.


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FliesOnly
Member (Idle past 2689 days)
Posts: 797
From: Michigan
Joined: 12-01-2003


Message 47 of 53 (220994)
06-30-2005 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by nator
02-12-2005 12:45 PM


Hi Schraf:

Schrafinator writes:

Oh, for sure. I do think he's probably educated.

...just not in Biology.

...or Chemistry or Physics.

A year before I finished my BS, a gentleman I knew somewhat well (and had a few classes with) graduated with a teaching degree in Biology. He is currently a high school biology teacher. Soon after graduation, he submitted a letter to the school newspaper, basically condemning the Department of Biology for focusing too much on evolution and completely ignoring creationism as a valid alternative. How very sad.

Recently, we just had a Grad student finish up who refuses to accept the ToE. He did answer all the question put towards him and they did pass him, but he honestly believes that the Earth is 6000 years old.

Lastly, I still have not tried the new olive oil. Gads! I have yet to even open the bottle.

ABE:

Oh and thanks for suggesting that I start a pit bull thread. I got shot so full of holes that when I drink a beer, I look like one of those cheap movie special effects, with beer squirting out all over the place! :)

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Philip
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Posts: 656
From: Albertville, AL, USA
Joined: 03-10-2002


Message 48 of 53 (221002)
06-30-2005 7:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by CaptRuss
02-03-2005 11:55 AM


Help from Creationists
--48, AL, Married (16 years)
--DPM (Podiatrist), MSBS (Barry Univ, Miami), BS-Psychology, AAS-EET
--Christian (fundy-independent)
--Podiatrist, Software Developer (www.DoctorProfessional.com), Ex-Marine Corp Jet Pilot
--YEC

… Was ME (by Jesuit and Augustinian (Catholic) teachings)
… Became OEC during a D.C. Anthropological demonstration which debunked “mutationalism” in humans.
… Entertained YEC while teaching H.S. sciences and absorbing student opinions on “built-in age” theories and “pre-hydroplate” theories (of global flooding)
… In 3rd quarter graduate biomedical science (1989): converted fully to YEC while studying enzymology , DNA recombinance, immunology, and patho-physiology.
Their was “little room” for mega-ToEs in these harsh biomedical curriculums and YECism became increasingly parsimonious to explain all the apparently “engineered” physiological excellencies that I’ve observed and handled.


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Ninapop
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Message 49 of 53 (240838)
09-06-2005 2:01 PM
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02-03-2005 11:55 AM


Age: 26
Residence: Illinois
Single
education: BS in History with one year of Grad school in Geography
Religion: Roman Catholic
Occupation: GIS Technician
Type: i really have no idea, but if i had to choose from the list i'd say some sort of EC/ME combo.
reason: i am not a positivist & a lack of evidence (i don't belive all the propaganda)

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Annafan
Member (Idle past 3123 days)
Posts: 418
From: Belgium
Joined: 08-08-2005


Message 50 of 53 (240958)
09-07-2005 4:19 AM


Age: 33
Residence: Belgium
Marital Status: single
Education Level: Mechnical Engineering (university level, kinda, but doing nothing with it :) )
Religious Affiliation: raised mildly Roman Catholic, now probably atheistic without being too outspoken about it
Occupation: IT
Type: PM

Reason: A short interest in "scientific mysteries" and UFO's around the age of 12-14 is as far as I ever got in believing that there could be "more out there". I see absolutely no need or utility in proposing supernatural or religious realities. Examples abound of how much (and I would say ALL) of it is self-deception or lack of skepticism. Any "explanation" of phenomenons that isn't somehow anchored into other, well established knowledge,is highly suspect and meaningless.


  
Dr Jack
Member (Idle past 649 days)
Posts: 3507
From: Leicester, England
Joined: 07-14-2003


Message 51 of 53 (240969)
09-07-2005 6:45 AM
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02-03-2005 11:55 AM


28
English
Single
Educated to Masters level in Mathematics
Atheist
Computer Programmer
Philosophical Materialist

I was raised as a Christian, and became a born-again Christian about the age of fourteen. I was never a creationist, having been raised by two parents with PhDs in Zoology I always understood and respected science. I would probably have been best described then by Materialistic Evolutionist - I believed God created the universe but that he took no direct intervention in evolutionary processes. I became an Atheist after reading the Bible and realising that the God described therein was incompatible with the loving, just God I had always worshipped and believed in. Philosophically, after I had moved on from the idea of Christianity I found that a universe without any supernatual elements was intellectually more satisfying and fitted best with the world I observed around me.


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cavediver
Member (Idle past 2187 days)
Posts: 4129
From: UK
Joined: 06-16-2005


Message 52 of 53 (240982)
09-07-2005 9:07 AM
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02-03-2005 11:55 AM


Age: 38
Residence: England
Status: Married
Education: PhD mathematical/theoretical physics
Religion: Christian
Occupation: Explorer/teacher/lecturer/broker
Type: Evolutionary Creationist (in CaptRuss' definition)

Grew up as agnostic/atheist. Converted to Christianity (became born-again) at 14 to inject a spiritual element into my life. Spent many years away from my faith in a rational backwater. Currently strong in my faith although very experimental in my private Christian beliefs. I see the god of the OT as a human (Hebrew) interpretation of God, and thus not in conflict with my own ideas of God.


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Larni
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Posts: 3992
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 53 of 53 (245873)
09-23-2005 5:19 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by CaptRuss
02-03-2005 11:55 AM


Age: 31
Residence: Plymouth England
Status: Long term relationship
Education: BSc Psychology, MSc Mental Health Provision
Religion: Agnostic
Occupation: Cognitive Behavioural Therapist
Type: PM
Why: I was bought up Church of England and as such was not indoctorinated to any great degree. Certain personal issues made me want to believe in a god and I tried to examine how a god would work in the world that I knew. Every conceptual space I created to examine where a god would fit into this world pointed me to the fact that the world would run along just the way it is without a god. Funnily enough this helped with the initial personal issues since I started to look to myself for answeres.

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