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Author Topic:   Key points of Evolution
Annafan
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Message 26 of 356 (464059)
04-23-2008 7:54 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by 1071
04-23-2008 6:56 AM


antiLIE writes:

even if you say it over and over you can not make it true.
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Key points of Evolution;
- There are fossils, geology, cosmology, microbiology, and biology
- To deny this, you are saying that Evolution is only biology.
- I have college "Biology" text books that teach paleontology, geology and cosmology to push the principals of evolution theory. Evolution has to have vast amounts of time to work according to naturalists. So they have to involve these other scientific fields in order to have evolution.

We should not confuse the fact of evolution with the theories about how it exactly came about. To establish that evolution took place "one way or the other", it is irrelevant how much time was available or what we know about mechanisms. The observation that different organisms share parts of the genetic code, even non-functional parts, in a pattern that matches heredity (plus other observations concerning morphology etc) is enough in itself to infer common descent/evolution. Only when you start to speculate about the mechanism, and consider mutations and natural selection, it becomes useful to have evidence for timeframes in the order of magnitude of millions/billions of years in order to make the numbers match up.

antiLIE writes:

- What is funny, is that every ones eyes are different. The evidence you have for evolution you are seeing through evolution colored glasses. The same evidence proves creation when viewed by creationists. However I realize that this never matters to either side. The individual is always right, from a certain point of view. (obi-wan kenobi logic)

You are quite mistaken. Maybe it's time to visit The scientific case for common descent, so you can decide for yourself; fact is that some of the evidence will only make the slightest sense if you "view it through evolution-colored glasses". Any other glasses will give you a collection of meaningless trivia.


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Annafan
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Message 67 of 356 (464759)
04-29-2008 4:50 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by Wumpini
04-28-2008 11:07 PM


Re: What do scientists believe?
Wumpini,

did you ever check out 29+ Evidences for Macroevolution?

This is highly recommended before you continue "discussing" the ("lack of..")evidence for evolution, because it will save you and us a lot of time.


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Annafan
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Message 73 of 356 (464765)
04-29-2008 6:53 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Wumpini
04-29-2008 6:10 AM


Re: Why the patronizing attitude?
Wumpini,

you have to understand that some people here get fed up easily with the many new posters who clearly lack a lot of information, but still go around shouting how there "is no evidence", how there "is great disagreement between scientists" etc. etc. Instead of showing a bit of humility, and at least covering the criticism up as honest questions.

Not that I'm targeting you specifically here. It's just that having many like those around, has conditioned some regulars into responding in a certain tone. ;-)


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