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Author Topic:   Key points of Evolution
seekingthetruth
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Message 8 of 356 (464001)
04-22-2008 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by platypus
12-13-2006 1:42 PM


I would like to first admit I have neither heard of, or read the book in question. Therefore, I will limit my
responses to the statements made about the book.
platypus writes:
This book is all about presenting Evolution in a Christian friendly manner.
Archer Opterix writes:
No one has to present the theory of plate tectonics in a Hindu-friendly manner or the theory of
the expanding universe in a Buddhist-friendly manner. The faith of so many professing Christians, though, seems to
be made of more fragile stuff.
Evolution in and of itself is very anti "christian". The bible clearly states that "GOD" created the heavens
and the Earth. Evolution states that "nothing" exploded billions and billions of years ago. That is what
ultimately created the heavens and the earth. Evolution tends the completly take God of the equation. I don't see
how anyone could expect a God fearing christian to believe "nothing" took the place of "God" creating the universe.
I don't know how Hindus belive, but I bet if you told them their god didn't create the universe they would be pretty
upset as well.
platypus writes:
If you hug a tree, you're hugging a relative, a very distant relative, but a relative nonetheless.
How exactly am I related to a tree? The bible states God created plants first, then animals, then Man. Nowhere in
there does it state we all came from some type of primordial good that miracously transmuted into trees, monkees
and then man. If you ask me, evolution takes a whole lot more faith to believe in than the bible.
platypus writes:
1) These two ideas must be taught in every science curriculum.
I have just one question to this statement. Where is the proof? If evolution and science is all about proof, where
is it? There is nothing you or anyone can produce showing a genetic link between a man and a tree. There is nothing
out there proving we all came from "nothing". If we are going to expect our children to believe in this there
should at the very least be some type of proof to back it up.
platypus writes:
2) Neither of these ideas are directly in conflict with the Bible.
Seriously? Do I really need to say anything?

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seekingthetruth
Junior Member (Idle past 5815 days)
Posts: 23
From: Austin, Texas
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Message 15 of 356 (464010)
04-22-2008 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by teen4christ
04-22-2008 3:04 PM


teen4christ writes:
Apparently, you also can't use the keyboard properly.
Nice. Could you possibly be anymore immature than that?
teen4christ writes:
At this point, I would like to ask for your credentials in biological science. After all, in order
to claim that evolution takes a lot of faith, you must have studied it rigorously, correct? Coiuld you give us an
insight into your years of hardwork in biological research programs?
I don't need a doctorate and years of study to know that humans and trees did not come from the same material. If you
have proof to the contrary please let us know.
teen4christ writes:
For someone that claims a lot of non-facts, you sure have a lot of strawman arguments to make.
Really? Show me one piece of evidence that supports the claim made in this book and I will shutup.

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seekingthetruth
Junior Member (Idle past 5815 days)
Posts: 23
From: Austin, Texas
Joined: 04-17-2008


Message 21 of 356 (464018)
04-22-2008 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by teen4christ
04-22-2008 4:03 PM


teen4christ writes:
Nobody is trying to tear anyone down.
Really? So your comment about my not being able to use a keyboard was meant to build me up? WOW, I really do feel refreashed. Thanks!!
Edited by seekingthetruth, : No reason given.

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seekingthetruth
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Message 36 of 356 (464078)
04-23-2008 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by bluegenes
04-23-2008 9:38 AM


bluegenes writes:
Not really. Biological evolution is a phenomenon that can be observed, as I've pointed out to you on another thread. No-one has ever observed Allah or any other supernatural being creating anything.
You seem to want to deceive yourself about this. Why? Surely being "antiLIE" implies a distaste for lying to yourself, as well as to others.
Just as no one was there to witness the creation of the universe, or the first lifeforms on the planet. Just because soemthing is not witnessed does not mean it is not there. I would cite gravity and oxygen as examples. We cannot see them but we know they are there.

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