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Coyote
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Message 13 of 271 (556576)
04-20-2010 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Iblis
04-20-2010 2:43 AM


Where are the bones?
If dinos were cavorting about in recent times, where are the bones?

We have bones from mammoth, mastodon, sloth, and all manner of critters now extinct. They're a dime a dozen.

Where are the dinosaur bones (bones, not fossils)?


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Message 19 of 271 (559255)
05-07-2010 10:27 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Buzsaw
05-07-2010 9:22 PM


Re: Dino Serpents
Buz -- there was no fall, no flood, and no ark. People did not live nearly a thousand years, nor did dinosaurs survive up to modern times (i.e., coexisting with humans) -- 1,000,000 Years B.C. notwithstanding (but Raquel Welch in a fur-lined outfit was worth the price of admission).

You keep trying to superimpose your religious belief on reality and the two don't seem to match.


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Message 26 of 271 (559268)
05-07-2010 11:43 PM
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05-07-2010 11:22 PM


Re: Dino Serpents
Reality is that both dinos and reptiles are known as serpents, many having similar visible physiological appearances, so which is more compatible with reality, your belief or mine?

Mine.

When will you ever learn not to try to lecture scientists on subjects about which you know nothing?


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Message 61 of 271 (559423)
05-09-2010 12:33 PM


To return to the original topic
Buz, you claim dinosaurs and humans co-existed.

Show me an instance in which dinosaur and human bones or man-made artifacts have been found in the same context.

We have a lot of examples of humans co-existing with extinct mammals, such as the mammoth and mastodon, but no dinosaurs.

Where are the bones?


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Message 71 of 271 (559446)
05-09-2010 6:32 PM


I will no longer be participating in this thread.

You simply can't discuss science with someone who makes things up as they go. That is the absolute antithesis of science.

(See tagline.)


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Message 193 of 271 (560547)
05-15-2010 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 192 by lyx2no
05-15-2010 10:40 PM


Re: Get Up to Speed
You can't go round citing the bits you like. It's called quote mining. Are you familiar with the term?

It's called creation "science."

Creation "scientists" and their followers believe anything and everything that supports their religiously-inspired positions, while ignoring everything that contradicts those positions.

That is why Buz should never opine on matters of science: he is absolutely unqualified to do so. He has already adopted a set of a priori beliefs that are the antithesis of science (that means exact opposite).

Why should anyone give any credence in matters of science to someone who is totally against science, it's methods, and it's findings?

Buz, you can believe the moon is made of green cheese and rub blue mud in your naval on alternate Thursdays for all I care, but stay away from science. You are absolutely unqualified to hold any opinions therein.

Further, your posts don't convince anyone that your position is correct, and in fact they expose you to well-deserved ridicule. Which brings to mind...


Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the heavens, and the other elements of the world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and the moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he holds to be certain from reason and experience. Now it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn.

St. Augustine, The Literal Meaning of Genesis, 1:42-43.


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Message 211 of 271 (560671)
05-16-2010 10:38 PM
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05-16-2010 9:59 PM


Re: Reptiles and Dinosaurs
...in fact my hypothesis has no less evidence than secular science's meteor hypothesis.

That's where you are wrong.

There is no scientific evidence for that mythical "water canopy," nor for a young earth. There is no scientific evidence for a global flood in the last 4500 or so years. Neither is there any scientific evidence for your view of dating.

You are deluding yourself in believing that there is. And, worse, you are trying to delude us with your unsupported fantasies.

And this is why I don't like posting to you on these issues. You just make things up! You have no touch with reality, or empirical evidence. If your religious beliefs say otherwise you just ignore any evidence, no matter how convincing that evidence is to others. You are lying to yourself and that's the worse lie of all.

And all of that is the exact opposite of science.

Yet still you pronounce your beliefs as if they were supported by scientific evidence!

That is why I am not posting to you very often. Your approach is entirely foreign to me. If the evidence points in some direction, I have to follow it whether I like it or not. You, on the other hand, just ignore what you don't like. Sorry, that's not science, nor is it honest. Nor is it something that I, as a scientist, can easily tolerate.


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Message 237 of 271 (560877)
05-18-2010 12:22 AM
Reply to: Message 236 by Buzsaw
05-18-2010 12:01 AM


Re: Reptiles and Dinosaurs
Percy, throughout the years here at EvC, I've presented corroborating evidence such as fulfilled prophecy and other data which convinces me that the Biblical record is a reliable premise for my world view. I've shown why I believe the data could (I say could) accomodate the Genesis record. As I've contended, no secularist non-ID minded person will ever admit to any evidence that I've ever cited. Ive presented another PoV based on the Biblical hypothesis, for what it's worth to you or anyone else. Obviously nobody here buys anthing I've said. I've aired all I have and am ready to move on to something else.

Buz, sorry to have to tell you this but what you have presented is not evidence.

You are presenting your own unsubstantiated fantasies and claiming scientific support, all the while ignoring any scientific evidence that anyone posts that refutes your claims.

That is why I don't post to you often. You live in your own fantasy world and have so little contact with reality, that dialog with you is almost always futile.


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Message 265 of 271 (609547)
03-21-2011 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 264 by jar
03-21-2011 10:08 AM


Re: But there are no cave paintings of dinosaurs.
So far no one has ever presented a cave painting of a dinosaur.

I've looked at thousands of pictographs and petroglyphs (I'm an archaeologist).

Many of the drawings are a true Rorschach test. You can make most anything out of them.

If creationists want to prove the coexistence of humans and dinosaurs, all they need to do is find a dinosaur bone in a prehistoric archaeological site, or to find a kill site with a spear point in a dinosaur bone. Hasn't happened.


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