YEC Problem with Science Above and Beyond Evolution

I think you've got this wrong.The idea of the world being created 6000 years old and Noah's Flood happening 4000 years ago (or whatever the numbers are) was demolished in the early days of the science that became geology.It was the founders of geology who first realised the Earth had to be much much older than the 6000 years required by the Biblical literalism fantasy - and this happened the best part of a century before Origin Of Species was published.

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Without wishing to be too pedantic I disagree.The Universe doesn't claim there was no flood - it states it absolutely and definitively. (My bold)This comment form Faith illustrates something I've never understood about Biblical literalists. Essentially they're saying that we shouldn't use the intellect and brains their God gave us to examine the Universe that He created - you either follow the evidence all the way to where it leads or you may as well not bother starting.

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Maybe it's because I should be in bed but I could have sworn you'd spent large parts of the last four pages of posts whining about this thread not being for specifics. Since I'm a nice guy I'll point you at one before I head for bed - the Northern Elephant Seal. It hit a bottleneck around the 1890s (at one time thought to be extinct but eventually a population of around 20 to 100 was found) and subsequently recovered to around 175,000 by the year 2000. Here is a study of the sort you are looking for (search for "An empirical genetic assessment of the severity of the Northern elephant seal population bottleneck" - it gives you a choice of links to PDF and HTML versions).I haven't had chance to check but I imagine with a bit of Googling you will find similar or better work for cheetas, golden hamsters and maybe both American and European bison.

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