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jar
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Message 3 of 105 (372304)
12-26-2006 1:15 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by cavediver
12-26-2006 12:32 PM


It doesn't matter which one is taught but I think they are important.
I think that ideas such as Biblical Creationism, ID or the Maharishi's university work showing how all divine principles and their interconnections with our chakras were manifestly portrayed by the Lagrangian of N=8 SuperGravity should be taught in Science classes.
Since there is not time to teach all it might be a good idea to have a list of such examples that the students could choose from.
One important thing to learn about science is how mistaken ideas are tested against the evidence and rejected.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 15 of 105 (384583)
02-12-2007 10:21 AM
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02-12-2007 10:11 AM


Christianity != ID
1)The large number of the population that is Christian... And largly unable to give a reason for there belifes.
Being a Christian does not equal supporting ID.
I agree that the Creationist movements and ID proponents have done a great job of framing the issue in the terms of "Accepting Evolution means denying God".
The question is, at least for me, of how to best teach that accepting evolution does NOT mean denying God.

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jar
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Message 19 of 105 (384600)
02-12-2007 12:02 PM
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02-12-2007 11:01 AM


Re: Christianity != ID
While I understand that you can't ever assume that all Christians agree on any subject. I think that to a high degree Christianity does equel believing in ID.
While you may believe that, it certainly is not fact. The fact is that over 10,000 US Christian Clergy signed on to a public letter supporting Evolution and the teaching of evolution and specifically went so far as saying that even considering the TOE as one theory among many "is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children."
See the Clergy Project
When you say "God" are you referring to the God of the bible? If so I would think that you have the hardest task of any view point. Because at least from my view point the two are completely uncompatable. If I come to believe in evolution I will no longer believe in God.
That is very, very sad, pitiful even. And yes, I am specifically talking in this thread about the Christian Biblical God.
Accepting Evolution has nothing to do with God. All we learn from it is "How" God Did It.
As a Christian, a very devout and active Christian, I can tell you as a fact that that it is not necessary to give up a belief in GOD, the Biblical God, if evolution is accepted. I fully believe in the Biblical God, have personally helped start a new Christian Church Mission, personally helped build two churches, taught both adult and child Sunday school, been a Christian for over 60 years, had a Christian school education, currently design and maintain my church's website and at the present time am preparing a "Way of the Cross" presentation.
If you would like I would be happy to help you as you expand your belief system and come to know a far bigger, far grander GOD than is found in many Christian churches.

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Message 66 of 105 (437267)
11-29-2007 1:12 PM


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Why should ID be taught in science classes...

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