Please define "macro"evolution
evolution at the species level or above
Also define "micro"evolution"
evolution belowe the species level
what facts can you teach about ID?
At first I thought of listing all the facts (from my knowledge and veiws at least) one by one. But this would do nothing but duplicate the point for the entire forum. And more importantly it really doesn't answer the question. I'm really not sure what the core of ID curriculem should be. A very good question. It might make for an interesting debate between the people that think ID should be taught at all.
The so-called "Nebraska Man"
(to give it its proper name, Hesperopithecus haroldcookii), was not used as evidence during
Scopes.
I would have sworn that I read that the "Nebraska Man"(to give it its proper name, Peccary) was used in the trial. But you are right I was greatly mistaken. LOL Thanks for the correction.
Why should ID qualify for special status?
Well because it is the correct theory of course... WAIT DON'T SHOOT! I'm just kidding. Well at least kind of kidding. With out getting into a debate about the specific facts that is really the argument for either side to be taught. They both argue that they are right. Both sides come to different conclusions over the same facts. And some people from both sides try to ignore some facts and throw other ones in (Nebraska man used in the scopes trial as an example). But what I would think to be a good reason from the evolutionist's view point is
1)The large number of the population that is Christian... And largly unable to give a reason for there belifes.
2}Because of this (and assuming you are correct) it would give evolution a much better chance of being accepted by the general population.
What part of the population believes ID over evolution or visa versa depends on what part of the world you are in. But I think that people of science often forget about the average person. Which is really what public education is aimed at. Simply teaching evolution won't change what a person's home or cultural teachings have brought them to believe. To do this you have to address the specific facts that they base there belifes on.
And it was based largely on a pig tooth that was thought to be the missing link.
If you think that this constitutes the basis (or in fact any part) of evidence for the Theory of Evolution, you have a couple of years' reading ahead of you!
While I did base the begining of my argument(ok fine, the whole argument) on an ignorant statement, i'm not quite ignorant enough to think that peccary plays a role in the "evidence" for or against evolution. While I was wrong in stating that it was used in the trial it is a huge assumption and leap to read beyond that. But yeah lol I do have some reading to do. And I suspect I always will.
'Nebraska Man' and pig teeth had nothing to do with the Scopes trial (1927).
I already addressed this above. But I might as well indulge you.... Your absolutely right. I was sadly mistaken and even worse wrong!
The Scopes trial was not about the Intelligent Design movement, which is of recent origin
I didn't mean to present it as such. But rather as part of the (US)legal history. But I think that fell apart since peccary wasn't used in the trial anyway.
The landmark case for Intelligent Design is Kitzmiller versus Dover Area School District (2005).
I haven't had time to look at this yet. But I definately will. Thanks for the link!!
I hope that I have done this in the correct format. I did a general reply since I was responding to more than one post. But if I need to do individual replies just let me know. Also thanks for the tip about quote boxes. We will see if I did it right.