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Mespo
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Message 22 of 116 (18744)
10-01-2002 3:43 PM


To TB and other Creationists:

Since high school science is usually taught from "approved" texts, what would you list as valid alternative texts to ToE.

So far, I've only seen a war of words. How about a war of texts, instead. "He said, she said, they said" is not going to hold up in court. What will hold up are recognized alternative sources from credible authors and publishers.

So, how about it. When the science teacher stands up in front of class and says...

"Today we will study alternative ToE. Please turn to page...

IN WHAT BOOK???

(:raig


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Mespo
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Message 24 of 116 (18748)
10-01-2002 5:17 PM


But that's precisely the point, nos482.

If the text has even a hint of religious affiliation, you've got 'em by the..., legally.

But just for fun, let me turn the tables on you.

The school board calls you up at 6 AM and says the science teacher is sick. They need a substitute teacher for the day. The topic to be covered is alternative ToE, taught at the high school level.

So, what 'cha gonna bring to class?

(:raig


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Mespo
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Message 28 of 116 (18754)
10-01-2002 6:06 PM
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10-01-2002 6:00 PM


quote:
Originally posted by nos482:
quote:
Originally posted by Mespo:
But that's precisely the point, nos482.

If the text has even a hint of religious affiliation, you've got 'em by the..., legally.

But just for fun, let me turn the tables on you.

The school board calls you up at 6 AM and says the science teacher is sick. They need a substitute teacher for the day. The topic to be covered is alternative ToE, taught at the high school level.

So, what 'cha gonna bring to class?

(:raig


Nothing since there is no legitimate scientific alternative. Guess the kiddies get a free period.


*Squawk* Mr. Nos, Mr. Nos, please report to the principal's office...*Squawk*

(:raig


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Mespo
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Message 52 of 116 (18984)
10-03-2002 10:42 AM


TB:

I'll issue my query again. Reread posts #22 & #24. Let's get pragmatic for just a minute. The Cobb County school board has created a real issue for themselves.

"the Cobb County School District believes that discussion of disputed views of academic subjects is a necessary element of providing a balanced education, including the study of the origin of the species. "

So, in practical terms, a science teacher will introduce alternate theories to the origin of species. Testing has to be an integral part of the teaching process. Students will need handouts and / or approved text materials to study for homework, work papers, quicky quizzes and final exams.

Again, I say, what texts? What references? Without a uniform approach, there will be chaos. Without administrative backing there will be anarchy. And the Cobb County school board will be vunerable to hammering in the court room and in the press. You can count on it. Even if their approach is wrong in the eyes of the scientific community, it has to be consistent.

So, how about giving the school board a hand, TB. Put together a draft of a lesson plan for alternative views for origin of species. Something that will hold up in court. Something that will deflect ridicule from the Creationist point of view.

(:raig


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