Philosophising on the Evo vs Creo debate.

But the Creostians also speak out against every philosophy under the sun and all other religions - even ones which are most unlikely to cause any threat at all to their own belief.A Christian stands on the inside and calls on all others to come from a myriad of outsides - to the inside. For they know what it is like on the outside themselves. They were all once there. For they themselves came from every philosopy and religion under the sun. Some of mans knowledge comes from His experienceThis message has been edited by iano, 05-May-2006 08:58 PM

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"A Christian is just one beggar telling other beggars where to find bread."

Is that really an emotional bias or perhaps a knower bias. Or would you see them as the same thing?

You are correct of course. Ones knower cannot be biased. Knowing is simply knowing. So which do you reckon it is w.r.t something-from-nothing, irrespective of how many people say its possible.Knower: no way
Emotional: I don't feel there is a way.This message has been edited by iano, 06-May-2006 02:40 PM

Sorry Kuresu. I should have said "some of some mens knowledge comes from Him". Those some men are in the first instance those who know him. This I cannot prove - no more than you can your own position. You are a self- consious being - but cannot prove where or how conciousness arises. Natural or supernatural: no one can prove either way.When you say "All knowledge comes from mans experience" you are really saying "I think all knowledge comes from mans experience" or "the evidence strongly indicates that all knowledge etc..." I think your mixing up a Christian (something that God makes) and a Religion called Christianity (which man makes). Sure there are many people who have been brought up in the Christian faith. Their parents may or may not be Christians. Even if they are, that doesn't make the children Christians. God has children - not grandchildren

I do. I know it is impossible. Is this something you know too - in which case it I would suggest it can be taken that it IS impossible and left to one side. Or is this an emotional stance - which means it might well be possible?

What a place. It seems that there isn't a word(ing) in the UK English, the US English, any other English or any other language (the ancient ones spring to 'mind') which isn't open to debate.I prophesy a thread title - good for at least 300 posts at that."What is nothing?"