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Author Topic:   should creationism be taught in schools?
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Message 3 of 301 (201345)
04-23-2005 1:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by whitlee
04-22-2005 6:29 PM


I say yes. If you asked me this question a last month, I would have said no. However, I now believe that if people are dumb enough to buy into creationism, they deserve live out their lives in their fantasy world. I stopped caring. It's like the seatbelt law. If people are dumb enough to drive without a seatbelt, it's always good for the gene pool to have these people removed through natural selection.
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Message 14 of 301 (201910)
04-24-2005 6:52 PM
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04-24-2005 6:15 PM


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RAZD writes:
I can also see a legitimate high school class on "Is it science?" where the particular failings of various concepts (creationism, Idism, velikovski-ism, etc) can be discussed and measured against the practice of science as a way of teaching kids the basics of what science really is and how it operates. But I don't think FUNDIEs would be happy with that either.
Being in high school not long ago, I know for a fact that high school students have absolutely no clue what the scientific method really is, even the honors and AP students.

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Message 37 of 301 (202028)
04-25-2005 12:41 AM
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Then the question is are middle school kids mature enough to absorb anything from the scientific method? I am a tutor in college and there are college students that I tutor that have trouble understanding some of the simplest concepts in science. My worry would be that if we introduce it too early it might scare them away and make them vulnerable to christian indoctrination.

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Message 48 of 301 (202227)
04-25-2005 1:49 PM
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04-25-2005 7:10 AM


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RAZD writes:
It seems that most european schools are more difficult than american ones at many levels.
Not necessarily so. European countries' school systems are different than ours. While you can still choose what field you want to study during college, they have to pick their majors in grade school. Then, they only study what they chose and nothing else.
This is why when we compare test scores of American students to foreign students that we find American scores are generally lower. This is because while all American students (good and bad students) take these exams, other students take the exams of their majors. In other words, we are comparing test scores of everybody in the US to test scores of math majors in other countries. It's simply not fair.
There are quite a few foreign students in my school. The ones that are literature majors don't even know what F=ma means. The science students, on the other hand, don't know anything about literature.

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Message 51 of 301 (202282)
04-25-2005 3:49 PM
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04-25-2005 1:58 PM


Re: If I may add my own anecdotal evidence.
Wow! Most of my high school teachers had education degrees instead of what they were teaching. To be honest, I learned a lot from them then, but if I go back there now I will not be able to learn anything at all.

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