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Brad McFall
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Message 83 of 152 (101273)
04-20-2004 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by coffee_addict
04-20-2004 4:11 PM


FOR REASON NUMBER ONE:
Stu Kaufmann the guy who perhaps BEST promotes order for free was the only man (aside from Von Weisacker who was just plain curious) who actually ENCOURGED ME to continue to think about acutal infinity in terms of biological objectifications.

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Brad McFall
Member (Idle past 5060 days)
Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 91 of 152 (101551)
04-21-2004 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Brad McFall
04-20-2004 4:14 PM


wrongly placed post-sorry my bad
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Brad McFall
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Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 92 of 152 (101552)
04-21-2004 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by coffee_addict
04-20-2004 4:43 PM


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I am going to get into this rather slowly this time so that perhaps by speaking slowly"" you might be one of those who can and do pick up on what I said,say but I will agree with Crashfrog on this one.
So I will explictly NOT go back to the thread head until next post.
Did you see"" AMERICAN IDOL last nite? Well unlike the Music Industry $ do not control reality (whether creatively interpreted or not)so where Simon was able to discern BOTH the "safe path" and an ALTERNATIVE in Fantasia's singing Creationism (not as creative writing as creative singing is...) IS A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE. Someone like Crashfrog needs it cross footed for his slimyness to "get it". I will try to see if you really want to understand this natural repose or not. It's OK to ignore me and perhaps I will be shown to be a fool"" if the e-mail from RUSSIA was really only a spoff off spun and spining from this one out of many threads. Time will tell.
Creationism is NOT infavor of "order for free" but Gould's characterization of work on autocatalytic sets is unless we(scientists) have already 'designed' such freedom or liberty INTO the job order. I can EASILY see after some terminological frusion of Gladyshev's sybols and whatever "signs" I can record the attachment of calculations IN such sets BEFORE the philosophy of C/E is broached but first we must man the breach. The only question I have for you is if you are willing to stand in this gap or gulf?
sorry I posted in under my name originally

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