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nator
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Message 105 of 136 (129114)
07-31-2004 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by tubi417
07-19-2004 11:58 PM


Re: Problems of evolution taught in school
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Name some beneficial human mutations besides that stupid muscular german kid that has shown up a lot on this forum.

First off, why do you limit your study of beneficial mutations to just humans?

Second, a big beneficial mutation in humans is the partial to full immunity to HIV that some people conferred from their anscestors who survived the Bubonic Plague in Europe.

Sickle Cell Anemia is beneficial WRT reproduction because it conferrs immunity to maleria long enough to reproduce oneself.

I, personally, have a beneficial mutation that inhibited my lower wisdom teeth to form.


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nator
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Message 107 of 136 (129117)
07-31-2004 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by Jasonb
07-22-2004 12:03 PM


Re: Problems of evolution taught in school
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Christianity will never again be taught in the public schools.

Yeah, the US Constitution and that whole "Establishment Clause" thingy is such a downer, huh?

You do know that the plaintiffs in the case that removed religious indoctrination by the government from our public schools was supported by many Christian and religious organizations, don't you?

It was CHRISTIAN people who worked to get it out.

Somehow, they thought that the government had no business teaching it's version of any religion to the children or citizens of this country.

Funny, you seem to think that the government should be Fundamentalist Proteststant Christian and indoctrinate all children into Fundamentalist Protestant Christianity.

Tell me, which sect should it be? One of the Evangelicals? Lutheran? Baptist? Church of God? Whaich religion should our government endorse?

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The atheists would never allow it.

Neither would the mainstream Christians, Catholics, Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Buddhists, Native Americans, and all the other religious groups that are interested in raising their children free of YOUR desire to indoctrinate their children.

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The strength of the resistance to such a movement from the atheists would simply over power any opposition.

Most religious groups oppose the promotion of religion by the government to be a very bad idea.

Please explain how a Theocracy is Constitutional.

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They would fight tooth and nail, with all their might, to stop such a thing.

Yes, and they would be joined by other Christians and other religious groups, as well.


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nator
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Message 108 of 136 (129119)
07-31-2004 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by Jasonb
07-22-2004 4:33 PM


Re: Problems of evolution taught in school
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I accept the Bible as truth because I have no reason to doubt it. This may make me a lousy science teacher in a public school system, but it does not make me uninformed or somehow less intelligent than anyone else.

No, not neccessarily less intelligent, but you have definitely shown yourself to be uninformed.

Actually, it's worse than that. You have been ill-informed.

You believe things that are not true regarding science and the Theory of Evolution.

If we seem hostile and arrogant, it is probably becasue we are frustrated with the number of times some Creationist comes along and states the same incredibly wrong, anti-science, anti-intellectual silliness as every other Creationist has stated.

What's worse, even though these folks, like you, are obviously lacking in even a basic understanding of the science involved, they feel perfectly comfortable poo-pooing it all.

Tell me, do you reject the Germ Theory of Disease? The bible contradicts it, you know, as it contradicts Newton's Laws of Planetary Motion.

IT is actually you who are arrogant, Jasonb, because you proclaim all of the Biological sciences to be false without the merest understanding of them.

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nator
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Message 109 of 136 (129121)
07-31-2004 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Robert Byers
07-24-2004 4:38 PM


Re: Problems of evolution taught in school
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Loudmouth. Christianity is the source of all that is right in the world. For wxapmle America.

Why don't you ask the Native Americans if Christianity is the source of all that is right in the world?

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Anyways though you are right there are evolutionist church goers (though not as many as you think).

How many are there, since you seem to know?

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What of it.
That doesn't change that mostly we creationists find the motives of activists evolutionists and supporters to be crusading against Christianity as a influence in America.

Christianity is already a huge influence in America, and as far as political influence, it's the radical exttremist fundamentalists who are a small minority that have the most influence.

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Also again there are few 9 to 5 paid evolutionary scientists.

What?

There's somewhere close to half a million Earth and Life scientists in the US alone.

It is true that most of them work longer hours every day than just 9-5, though.

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And of coarse We don't believe they have a right to call themselves scientists but instead should be called historians.

Are Physicists, Geneticists, Astronomers, Cosmologicsts, and Geologists not scientists, but "historians", as well?


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