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Did congress make a law? (Establishment Clause)

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tsig
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Message 81 of 103 (197613)
04-08-2005 3:52 AM 		Reply to: Message 77 by gnojek
04-07-2005 4:28 PM

Powers denied
It is QUITE PLAINLY STATED what congress can't do with regard to religion. It is not stated at all what a state legislature can do with it. The only way it says anything with regard to a state legislature and religion is if you reword the first ammendment to make it say something that it doesn't.
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Since the constitution is the supreme law of the land and congress is the legislature set up under the constitution, any powers denied to congress are also denied to any inferior legislature.
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Message 91 of 103 (200042)
04-18-2005 4:34 AM 		Reply to: Message 86 by gnojek
04-15-2005 2:52 PM

Re: Powers denied
Since the constitution is the supreme law of the land and congress is the legislature set up under the constitution, any powers denied to congress are also denied to any inferior legislature.
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just not going to answer?
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tsig
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Message 92 of 103 (200043)
04-18-2005 4:43 AM 		Reply to: Message 86 by gnojek
04-15-2005 2:52 PM

Re: Powers denied
hat great choice in wording.
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If only it were true.
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It is the supreme law of the land, but that in no way implies that restrictions on congress should be applied to the states.
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cross post
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So you think that the state legislature has more powers than congress?
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Message 95 of 103 (200149)
04-18-2005 2:57 PM 		Reply to: Message 93 by nator
04-18-2005 10:24 AM

Re: Powers denied
Yeah, if that's the case, then where did this term "unfunded mandate" come from that the state governments use all the time?
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I think Elvis has left the building.
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I thought the Civil War settled the question of the central goverment vs. states rights.
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Thanks for the reply.
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Message 99 of 103 (201368)
04-23-2005 5:46 AM 		Reply to: Message 96 by gnojek
04-22-2005 8:25 PM

Re: Powers denied
Can congress ban prostitution in only Nevada?
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Yes
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Message 102 of 103 (201373)
04-23-2005 6:33 AM 		Reply to: Message 100 by Rrhain
04-23-2005 5:59 AM

Re: Powers denied
That would be a violation of the 14th Amendment which guarantees equal protection under the law. If Congress is going to pass a law, it must apply to the entire citizenry equally.
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The 14th only mentions states.
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