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Author Topic:   Did congress make a law? (Establishment Clause)
mikehager
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Message 8 of 103 (188608)
02-25-2005 9:37 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by gnojek
02-25-2005 9:09 PM


The constitution
What isn't clear? The clause clearly states that it is the supreme law of the land, and that the state laws, whatever they may choose to say, can't break the precepts of the constitution.
Thus, when the national congress is (thankfully) prohibited from taking part in religion, so by extension are state legislatures. It is exactly this clause that disallows a state from, for instance, passing a law that says that only adult white males can vote.

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mikehager
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Message 87 of 103 (199665)
04-15-2005 8:05 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by gnojek
04-15-2005 2:52 PM


Re: Powers denied
You know,maybe we should interpert the constitution by the gnojek test... that being that it means what gnojek wants it to say. Wait, no, that would be disastor.
It has been explained to you over and over what the framers of the Constitution and the courts and citizens of the United States mean by the first and fourteenth amendments. You simply can't or won't understand. Oh well. No great loss. Just one more frustrated would-be theocrat.
Whether you like it or not, or if you understand it or not, it is unconstitutional for any level of government, from municipal to federal, to pass any law regarding an establishment of religion.
By the way, that is a good thing, but I'm sure that fact will escape you also.
I'm surprised people have been so patient.
So are we to understand that you think it would be all right for Iowa (to pick a state at random) to pass a law saying the state religion is Christianity and you must follow it to vote, attend school or work? Or do you just want a good Christian prayer in the schools along with some readings from the KJV? Maybe you would be a generous tyrant and let the jewboys and heathens leave the room so all the good kids would know who to deride and attack on the playground.
I am so thankful to the wise and prudent men who wrote the amendments and the sober and reasonable judges who interpert them that those who agree with you are suitably controlled.

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