April, 2004, Posts of the Month

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Please post your votes for the April, 2004, Post of the Month here. Include author, forum name, thread name, post number, eg:

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Name: Velvet Tongue
Forum: Evolution
Thread: I'm no monkey
Post #: 17

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A link to the message, and perhap a SHORT comment would also be nice. But, this is NOT a place to debate the referenced topic - so be nice.I think that a fairly liberal use of this topic would be a good thing for indexing some nice messages that are otherwise doomed to be lost in the clutter. So, if you encounter a message that seems to say something of special substance, please give it a plug/reference in this topic.New month, same old message and routine,
Adminnemooseus

Name: Sarde
Message 150A very sucinct, and pithyly expressed warning about the dangers of dogmatic literalism from a believer (now).If Satan is at work his website is http://www.answersingensis.hell. {NED - I'M NOT SURE WHICH MESSAGE YOU WANTED TO REFER TO, BUT 150 IS FROM CRASHFROG - AM (please delete my comment when you fix things)}{Since Ned hasn't noticed this to fix it, I'll just point out that my guess is that he meant message 159 - TL (delete mine, too!!)}{Message 159 was posted 4/8/04. NN must have meant message 148. - AM}[This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 04-01-2004][This message has been edited by AdminTL, 04-09-2004][This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 04-23-2004]

Name: Mark24 (and also Parsimonious_Razor, for starting the topic)
Forum: Evolution
Thread: Rate changes for evolution
Post #: 29Message 29 is pretty good, but the topic as a whole has been some of the best "Punk Eek" discussion I've seen.Mooseps to NosyNed - You need to fix the previous message

EVOLUTION OF THE SPECIES
TO PROPAGATE THE ALIEN..{This message did not belong in the POTM forum, and probably doesn't belong anywhere at . Most of the content deleted. Yes, this is a rare example of a message being edited for (non)content by a moderator.}PGURRIERI, behave yourself - Please see the Forum Rules. - Adminnemooseus[This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 04-01-2004]

Cheers Moose!

Name: whatever
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Message 12This is to second Quetzal's comment on whatever's post.I can't decide if it belongs here (so it doesn't get lost), humour (cause it is so funny) or faith and belief since it manages to capture just how amazingly un-literal an apparent biblical literalist can be.

People, let's get those special messages logged here. I know some have been happening.Adminnemooseus

Ned, I thank you for nominating me for a monthly post of the month, in light of your clever use of satire, think you should be nominated for post of the month, in spite of nominating you, I've pasted Message 29 of 46 of Animals of the Flood thread, on the subject of at times needing to consult the hebrew meaning of words that are all exclusive, as in this case, in light of "only", etc... it is interesting, the bible literally that its not supporting all life perished in the biblical flood, because in kjv genesis 7:23 "only" is not an all exclusive hebrew word, in that it could mean nontheless, etc...P.S. The creatures in Australia survival is also related to less glacial evidences, supporting the hydroplate theory, that were more problematic in the northern hemisphere, than in Australia, though I would welcome any finding kangaroo fossils in other continents, or native hoofed creatures surviving in Australia, to prove my hypothesis wrong, so the proof is in the pudding (fossil evidences), that the word "only" was an incorrect English word choice for the hebrew word only, but Noah nevertheless remained alive and they that were with him on the ark, etc...Message 29 of 46 of Animals of the Flood threadIt appears when checking the hebrew that the use of "only" could mean nevertheless, meaning its not all consuming, that if a mole could climb aboard debris, or if some albatross, ostrich, kiwi, whatever, could swim, feed, they then didn't perish on the surface, and helped to repopulate the surface of the earth, it was a world flood, no hoofed creatures in Australia, etc...
P.S. Sometimes you have to go to the Hebrew to clarify wording, etc...kjv Gen 7:23 And (853) every3605 living substance3351 was destroyed4229 which834 was upon5921 the face6440 of the ground,127 both man,4480, 120 and5704 cattle,929 and5704 the creeping things,7431 and5704 the fowl5775 of the heaven;8064 and they were destroyed4229 from4480 the earth:776 and Noah5146 only389 remained7604 alive, and they that834 were with854 him in the ark.8392H389

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Akin to H403; a particle of affirmation, surely; hence (by limitation) only: - also, in any wise, at least, but, certainly, even, howbeit, nevertheless, notwithstanding, only, save, surely of a surety, truly, verily, + wherefore, yet (but).[This message has been edited by whatever, 04-08-2004]

Truthlover
Do Paul and James Really Contradict on Faith and Works?
Faith and Belief
19I get wiser whenever Truthlover posts, I really do.

Name: Bill Birkeland
Forum: Geology and the Great Flood
Thread: Wyatt's Museum and the shape of Noah's Ark
Post #: 14In reference to the "Ark shaped" geological features of Mt. Ararat. NosyNed says in the following message:

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I think Bill has answered the questions we might have had.

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Moose

Name: Sylas
Forum: Education and Creation/Evolution
Thread: Two important questions etc.
Post: 33Another great post from Sylas. He has a writing style that reminds me of Michael Shermer ("Why People Believe Weird Things"), and I like where he says: Not to mention balderdash, horsefeathers, and an ol' heap of shite.

Name: Desdamona
Forum: Big Bang and Cosmology
Thread: Big Bang Problem
Post #: 91Contains the following:

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If the Holy Bible doesn't have any credibility over someone's favorite science teachers, what does?

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{Adminnemooseus injects side note: Note the "wonderful" topic title. Message 1 was actually pretty good, containing the key sentence "How can we explain how The Big Bang Theory contradicts the Law of Conservation of Angular Momentum". Title should have been "Big Bang - Contradicts the Law of Conservation of Angular Momentum?". AM exits.}Remember all, this forum is NOT the place to debate the cited topic.Moose

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Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham

Name: Loudmouth
Forum: Is It Science?
Thread: Open Minded? {Topic title change pending}
Post #: 17A concise summary of the scientific method. Strangely enough, this came out of a discussion of changing the topic title to something more discriptive.1 sentence from the message:

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Finding data that doesn't fit the model is kind of the Holy Grail amongst scientists, it guarentees a long and fruitful career and maybe even a new theory named after themself.

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Moose

Author: Loudmouth
Forum: [forum=-12]
Thread: Forever Faithful: A Question for Creationists
Message: Message 59Yet another post I wish I'd written myself. This post is notable for clearly describing the difference between evidence-based theories and faith-based beliefs.--Percy

Poster: Joe Meert
Forum: Dates and Dating
Thread: Gravity Versus the Young Earth Creation
Post: #28A very succinct and well written post on the differences between creationist science based on the Bible and science based on methodological naturalism.