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AdminNWR
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Message 1 of 63 (291163)
03-01-2006 8:08 AM


Make your March, 2006 POTM nominations here.
Format
Author: author's name
Forum: the forum where posted
Thread: the thread title
Message: the particular posted message number
Your nomination should include a link to the nominated article, and a short comment on why you are nominating (or seconding).
As always, this is not a thread for debates. Posts should be limited to nomination, seconds, acceptance statements by nominee.

NosyNed
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Message 2 of 63 (291288)
03-01-2006 4:31 PM


Chiropter on why keep ID out of classrooms
Message 8
Fundamental reasons to not allow infiltration are laid out very sharply.

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Message 3 of 63 (291291)
03-01-2006 4:48 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by NosyNed
03-01-2006 4:31 PM


Re: Chiropter on why keep ID out of classrooms
Seconded.
A powerful message, but I was hesitating on POTMing it, for it goes far beyond intelligent design considerations. To me, it is a condemnation of the entire neo-con movement. Somewhere, somehow, I think the message needs a better home.
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

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Chiroptera
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Message 4 of 63 (291297)
03-01-2006 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Minnemooseus
03-01-2006 4:48 PM


Re: Chiropter on why keep ID out of classrooms
For once I understand your concerns, moose: it is a post that can certainly derail the main conversation. To ease your concern, I assure you that I would have (and will) tell anyone who wants to engage in the specific points that were brought up that they are probably off-topic.
As it is, the question asked in the OP was for a reason ID shouldn't be taught in the classroom. My opinion (which may not be shared with others) is that it is part of a larger, insidious movement, and lines must be drawn somewhere. I think that the answer is appropriate for the thread, although detailed discussion of some of the points I brought up might not be.
To any debaters: discussion of this topic should take place in the appropriate thread, and not here in POTM.
And thanks, Ned, for the nomination. I am ever so gratified that someone might find value in my ramblings.
(And Coragyps -- I may not be as young as you think.)

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Chiroptera
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Message 5 of 63 (291307)
03-01-2006 5:44 PM


Percy on the difference between faith in religion and in science
Author: Percy
Forum: Miscellaneous Topics in Creation/Evolution
Thread: What's the best strategy for defending evolution?
Message: #93
While I'm here in POTM, we all hear the argument how science is a religion, or it takes faith to believe in science like it does in religion. Percy has given the best, concise rebuttal of this that I have read so far.

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Message 6 of 63 (291742)
03-03-2006 9:09 AM


Cavediver isn't mean at all.
Cavediver trys his best to help a newcomer, Bandie8.
Message 12
It is firm and puts the blame where it lies. It assumes that Bandie8 is honest and interested in learning.

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Message 7 of 63 (291745)
03-03-2006 9:18 AM


The whole forum in one post -- Chiroptera
Message 6
This clear, compact but fact-full post of Chiroptera's, if read and understood would be all we really need on the forum. Just post it on the home page and be done with it.

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jar
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Message 8 of 63 (291769)
03-03-2006 10:25 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by NosyNed
03-03-2006 9:18 AM


Re: The whole forum in one post -- Chiroptera
I only wish I had read his post before you. It is one of the best posts I've seen, far more than a simple POTM. Perhaps we need a new category, Posts of Infinitely Great Significance (PIGS).

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 9 of 63 (291798)
03-03-2006 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by jar
03-03-2006 10:25 AM


Re: The whole forum in one post -- Chiroptera
Oh, come on, it wasn't that good.
But thanks for the compliments. It does feel nice that someone somewhere appreciates some of my incoherent ramblings deep thoughts on various topics.
Are the rumors true that for every PTOM nomination one gets, one is allowed to write a totally gratuituous, off-topic, flame-war ad-hominem attack against another member?

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jar
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Message 10 of 63 (291801)
03-03-2006 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Chiroptera
03-03-2006 11:59 AM


Re: The whole forum in one post -- Chiroptera
Only if Ned or I are the targets.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Buzsaw
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Message 11 of 63 (291938)
03-03-2006 9:42 PM


Forum: Are creationists returning to their YEC roots?
Post: 3
Member: Bremmikimi
OP to which Brem was responding:http://EvC Forum: Are creationists returning to their YEC roots? -->EvC Forum: Are creationists returning to their YEC roots?
brennikimi writes:
usually, an antelope fights the hardest just before the lion finally kills it.
maybe we'll get lucky.
Though I'm not a big read fan of Brem, I really like this response to Percy's OP in Percy's new interesting looking thread. It was short, to the point and yet said it all. After this little biggie, Percy can now just close the thread and go fishing.
Edit to change smilies.
This message has been edited by buzsaw, 03-03-2006 09:45 PM

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Message 12 of 63 (291943)
03-03-2006 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Buzsaw
03-03-2006 9:42 PM


*blushes*
thank you buz. it's nice to hear a response to this from your side of the camp. honestly. i think it's sad that the arguments have come to such polarities. it's much more useful when it is varying degrees of moderation.

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Message 13 of 63 (292385)
03-05-2006 1:04 PM


go rin go
ringo's message #40 from the serpent of genesis thread.
Now, the point of the story is that we have the knowledge of Good and Evil. It doesn't particularly matter where we got it from.
We have the knowledge of Good and Evil - we inherited it from Adam and Eve. It is our responsibility to do what is good and avoid what is evil. Putting the blame on a snake (or on any outside source) completely negates the message of the story.
If we see the snake as a plot device rather than an "adversary", the message makes sense.

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Message 14 of 63 (292580)
03-06-2006 12:23 AM
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03-05-2006 1:04 PM


Re: go rin go
Thank you.
I'm just learning how to put these ideas into words, so it's nice to know somebody catches my meaning.

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Minnemooseus
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Message 15 of 63 (292590)
03-06-2006 1:30 AM


Roxrkool, at "Global Flood Evidence: A Place For Faith to Present Some"
Author: roxrkool
Forum: Geology and the Great Flood
Thread: Global Flood Evidence: A Place For Faith to Present Some
Message: 67
Basicly, the type of message I wish I could write.
Roxrkool has some other pretty good messages upthread. But my suspicion is that the such as message 41 may be getting a little too technical and jargon heavy for the very casual geo-layman.
Remember, debate the topic there, not here.
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

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