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Author Topic:   Buz's refutation of all radiometric dating methods
John
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Message 7 of 269 (43611)
06-22-2003 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by tomwillrep
06-22-2003 9:53 AM


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why is it that if a scientific theory is wrong its always a "mistake" or thrown right out the door and new ways brought in?
This would be a problem if it actually happened that way. In the case under discussion, the people doing the testing KNEW that the dating method would not work. You can't misapply technology and then complain that it doesn't work. Like the guy said when I bought my cell phone, "It is guaranteed against breakage, but if you drop it into the lake we aren't going to replace it."
The history of science is full of bad and abandonned theories, so your criticism is wrong on this point too.
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John
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Message 118 of 269 (44832)
07-02-2003 9:11 AM
Reply to: Message 116 by Buzsaw
07-02-2003 12:56 AM


JonF was talking about some technology under development, not about current dating methods.
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Message 122 of 269 (44891)
07-02-2003 10:44 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by Buzsaw
07-02-2003 10:36 PM


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It's not solid when deposited. It takes milleniums to solidify after deposit. The permeation I'm talking about would occur when deposited.
Well, Buz, you just screwed up a young earth-- in your case, young relative to life, not geology, if I remember right. If it takes millennia for a layer to solidify and there are many layers, we quickly get well beyond the 6000 year mark.
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John
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Message 124 of 269 (44899)
07-03-2003 12:22 AM
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07-02-2003 11:40 PM


ummm... just one post back you were arguing that it takes millenia for sediment to solidify. All I did was point out the consequences of that assertion. Now you argue that sediment can solidify in a couple of years? You can't have whichever option is convenient.
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John
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Message 148 of 269 (45219)
07-06-2003 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by JonF
07-06-2003 1:39 PM


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""Why do the radioactive ages of lava beds laid down within a few weeks of each other differ by millions of years?"Glenn R. Morton, "Electromagnetics and the Appearance of Age, " in Creation Research Society Quarterly, March 1982, p. 229."
I'd be willing to bet that he was dating recent lava flows-- within a few hundred or thousand years of the present-- with something like potassium-argon. This trick seems to be very popular.
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John
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Message 239 of 269 (56194)
09-18-2003 12:12 AM
Reply to: Message 238 by Buzsaw
09-17-2003 11:19 PM


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On the contrary, Crashfrog, I'd rather think they would be fairly consistently wrong if the false reading were caused by conditions commonly affecting all.
If I am not mistaken, this is very near the point. What ARE those conditions commonly affecting all? There isn't ONE common factor in the various dating methods. Yes, yes... I hear it coming. "The decay rate..." But the elements currently decay at different rates, so if you scale that decay rate up or down, they still decay at different rates.
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