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Author Topic:   Age Correlations and an Old Earth: Version 1 No 3 (formerly Part III)
PaulK
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Message 33 of 357 (346344)
09-04-2006 2:54 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Hughes
09-04-2006 12:15 AM


Re: Tree Rings -- your move.
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If the creation model (any of them) is accurate, then the assumption that all trees started as seeds is in error. Meaning that the core sample, could contain years that were placed their by the creator, at the beginning.
That wouldn't explain much of the data from oaks. A few species of oak can reach ages of 1,000 years but that's it. So on that data alone you have to accept that the earth is at least 9000 years old, and probably older. And that requires assuming that the "originally created" wood is available to find - so likely te earth is more than 9,000 years old without even considering the other evidence.

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Message 232 of 357 (436938)
11-28-2007 7:44 AM
Reply to: Message 231 by johnfolton
11-28-2007 5:17 AM


Re: John Baumgardner on C14
You seem to have forgotten to explain what this means with respect to the actual data. Obviously it doesn't affect the laying down of the varves. And if the source of the contaminating carbon is lower, it must have been there even longer. I can't see that this helps YECs!.
Anyway, if your point is correct - we should see a systematic bias towards the carbon age being older than the age calculated from the varve count - and older than the carbon dates measured for objects of the same age. Perhaps you would like to check that and reprot the results.

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Message 239 of 357 (437173)
11-29-2007 2:49 AM
Reply to: Message 238 by johnfolton
11-29-2007 2:30 AM


Re: Its a Young Earth Folks !!!!!!
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The bacteria is all the creationists need to prove his varve data bogus
Not true. You need to show that the effect of the bacteria would account for the results. And that includes the varves themselves. As it stands the correlation between the varves and the carbon dates is all RAZD needs to refute the creationists.

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