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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2669 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Pahu,
You do understand, don't you, that anything you cut and paste from AIG/ICR/etc. will be demolished in one post? Matt P. in Message 5, for example. Furthermore, when asked to provide cites, it is customary to give them is this format: Chassefiere, E.MEP (Mars Environment Package): toward a package for studying environmental conditions at the surface of Mars from future lander/rover missions. Adv Space Res. 2004;34(8):1702-9. That way we will be able to find the relevant literature. The garbage you posted in Message 12 is worse than useless. For example, when I search pubmed for the first of the authors that you list, Scott Tremaine, I find 2 entries: The legacy and large-scale distribution of active galaxies.Philos Transact A Math Phys Eng Sci. 2005 Mar 15;363(1828):613-9; discussion 619. Why Does the Earth Spin Forward?Science. 1993 Jan 15;259(5093):350-354. Neither of which has anything to do with meteoric dust. Are you going to provide the cites that several of us have asked for or not? Edited by molbiogirl, : No reason given.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2669 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
You need to do 2 things:
1. State your case, using the relevant cites in the appropriate format to support your contentions. 2. When someone thoroughly dismantles one of your swiped PRATTs, you need to either rebut or concede. You posted your meteoric dust PRATT as an OP. Fabulous. Matt destroyed your meteoric dust garbage in Message 5. Rebut or concede?
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2669 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
I have no idea. I am just sharing information from a source I consider to be authentic. You carry your own weight around here. If you'd like to track down something in the scientific literature, look here: PubMed If you'd like to track down Stevenson, google his creo ass. If you'd like to track down the footnotes, turn to the back of the book! If you'd like to track down the title of the book, look on the cover! If you want to track down the quotes, turn to page 22! If you don't want to answer any of Dwise1's questions, you are going to find yourself in hot water pretty quick. You can either engage in debate or you can take your swiped creo PRATTs elsewhere.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2669 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Pahu: molbiogirl did this for us in message 19. I'm calling bullshit on this one. Where, exactly, did I show "the 'facts' Tremaine 'discovered' which 'disprove' evolution", hm? Please quote me. Either you pony up the arguments for Tremaine or stop posting. This is getting tiresome.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2669 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Jinx!
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2669 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood - 46. Evolving Planets?
Pahu, You swiped your entire post (Message 49) from this website. You are a plagiarist and a liar. You need to go. Now.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2669 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Here's the original source:
"If the earth had initially been molten, it would have cooled to its present condition in much less than 4.6 billion years [the age applied to it by evolutionary theory]. This conclusion holds even after one makes liberal assumptions on the amount of heat generated by radioactive decay within the earth. The known temperature pattern inside the earth is only consistent with a young earth." ”W. T. Brown, In the Beginning (1989), p 17. Here's where I found it:Page not found – Evolution-Facts This guy is a plagiarist. ABE: At the very least, Percy, this creo needs to get schooled on proper cites and proper quotes. Edited by molbiogirl, : No reason given.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2669 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Doc,
The liar ref is from earlier in the thread. Message 35:
anglagard: Since you made this assertion, I'm sure it would be no problem to show us what 'facts' Tremaine 'discovered' which 'disprove' evolution in the appropriate thread. Pahu: molbiogirl did this for us in message 19. I did no such thing. And this numbskull is pasting verbatim from Center for Scientific Creation – In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood. Without quote boxes. Without providing the proper URLs. Since when is it kosher to just swipe unattributed material from a creo site? And add absolutely nothing else to the discussion?
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2669 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Aw. Archie. You sugar lump. You made my night.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2669 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Jason, it is common courtesy to provide the cite without having to be asked (per Rule 6). Since you didn't provide a cite and since you have been asked, you need to either provide the cite or concede. Something along the lines of:
"I, Jason777, have no cite for the claim that Australopithecenes have opposable thumbs; therefore, I concede the point."
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2669 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Your cite says nothing about opposable big toes.
Again. Either concede the point or provide a cite.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2669 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Again. You need to provide cites, so that we can research your claims.
Simply listing a bunch of names ...
lord solly zuckerman,phd charles oxnard,and b.woods and m. collard ... marvin l. lobenow ... is not sufficient.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2669 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
From their conclusion:
We suggest that a fossil species should be included in Homo only if it can be demonstrated that it (i) is more closely related to H. sapiens than it is to the australopiths, (ii) has an estimated body mass that is more similar to that of H. sapiens than to that of the australopiths, (iii) has reconstructed body proportions that match those of H. sapiens more closely than those of the australopiths, (iv) has a postcranial skeleton whose functional morphology is consistent with modem human-like obligate bipedalism and limited facility for climbing, (v) is equipped with teeth and jaws that are more similar in terms of relative size to those of modern humans than to those of the australopiths, and (vi) shows evidence for a modern human-like extended period of growth and development. Thus, H. habilis and H. rudolfensis (or Homo habilis sensu lato for those who do not subscribe to the taxonomic subdivision of "early Homo") should be removed from Homo. The obvious taxonomic alternative, which is to transfer one or both of the taxa to one of the existing early hominin genera, is not without problems, but we recommend that, for the time being, both H. habilis and H. rudolfensis should be transferred to the genus Australopithecus. Nothing of Australopithecus afarensis, Australopithecus robustus, Australopithecus africanus ... which, btw, are not Homo, Jason. Australopithecus is one genus. Homo is another genus. They are 2 entirely different things.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2669 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Another evidence that clearly agrees with them not being a bipedal hominid is found in(science news april,8 2000 p.225)that proves they have wrist capable of locking the hands in place during knuckle walking. Wrong again. Here is the link to the article you reference: http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20000408/note11ref.asp Here is the paper than article references: Richmond, B.G., and D.S. Strait. 2000. Evidence that humans evolved from a knuckle-walking ancestor. Nature 404(March 23):382-385. Here is a quote from that paper:
Here we present evidence that fossils attributed to Australopithecus anamensis (KNM-ER 20419)11 and A. afarensis (AL 288-1)12 retain specialized wrist morphology associated with knuckle-walking. Australopithecus, Jason. Not Homo.
And if that werent enough another nail was driven in the coffin by israeli researchers(Health & Sci-Tech April,16 2007:Israeli researchers:"Lucy"Is not direct ancestor of humans) Health & Sci Tech is not a journal, you moron.
Here is the link to the Jeruselam Post article you cited. Here is the proper cite:PNAS, April 17, 2007, vol. 104, no. 16, 6568-6572 From the article you cited:
Tel Aviv University anthropologists say they have disproven the theory that "Lucy" - the world-famous 3.2-million-year-old Australopithecus afarensis skeleton found in Ethiopia 33 years ago - is the last ancestor common to humans and another branch of the great apes family known as the "Robust hominids." Australopithecus, Jason. Not Homo. Here are all the species: Australopithecus anamensisAustralopithecus afarensis Australopithecus africanus Australopithecus garhi Australopithecus aethiopicus Australopithecus robustus Australopithecus boisei Homo habilis Homo georgicus Homo erectus Homo ergaster Homo antecessor Homo heidelbergensis Homo neanderthalensis Homo floresiensis Homo sapiens sapiens Even if you knocked Lucy out of Australopithecus, that would have no effect on the ToE. Lucy is but one example of Australopithecus afarensis. One example out of dozens.
wiki writes: However, in 2006 scientists Yoel Rak, Avishag Ginzburg, and Eli Geffen carried out a morphological analysis which found that the mandibular ramus (jawbone) of australopithecus afarensis specimen A. L. 822-1 discovered in 2002 closely matches that of a gorilla, and from further studies they concluded that "australopithecus afarensis" is more likely a member of the robust australopithecines branch of the hominid evolutionary tree and so not a direct ancestor of man. They concluded that Ardipithecus ramidus discovered by White and colleagues in the 1990s is a more likely ancestor of the human clade. Did you catch that last bit, Jason? They are not claiming that Lucy was a knuckle walking ape with no relation to humans. They are arguing that a different Australopithecus is more likely.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2669 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Pahu, you have been warned twice by the The Admin (Percy) to stop with the CnPs.
Yet, once again, you have done nothing more than swipe from a creo site and dump it here wholesale. Are you trying to get suspended? Cause you will. Percy usually gives 3 warnings and then it's suspension time. ABE: Percy beat me to it. Edited by molbiogirl, : sp Edited by molbiogirl, : No reason given.
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