The possibility of pre-human civilizations on earth?

Never mind pre-human, I`ll settle for evidence of the pre-Flood civilisation. Where`s the city of Enoch? Where are the brass/iron artifacts of Tubal-Cain? Of course, we know that the Assyrians existed before the Flood, but where are all the rest?

ah, but you CAN in the start trek universe. a nextgen episode once explained why nearly all intelligent alien species were humanoid: intelligent design.some ancient and lonely alien race seeded the galaxy with their dna in some kind of program to make others like them. remember that episode? that was a good one.

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Awesome episode (wasn't it a double?), in the days when NextGen was great. I must admit that by the last couple of series, I was getting rather annoyed with it all. But by then, we had Babylon 5

funny, i always thought of babylon 5 as "store-brand ds9"

Funny, I remember Berman thinking "sh!t, why are we so dull", followed by some blatent B5-esque episodes/series I still dream of B5 having been given DS9's budget... that was where it was store-brand. Story-line was simply excellent... for a TV show

ah ha. i see.

Good answer I believe the great internet forum war bewteen the DS9ers and the B5ers was fought long ago, and in the end they all just grew up

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ah, but you CAN in the start trek universe. a nextgen episode once explained why nearly all intelligent alien species were humanoid: intelligent design.

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some ancient and lonely alien race seeded the galaxy with their dna in some kind of program to make others like them. remember that episode? that was a good one.

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Right. They found a 'message' buried in DNA and ran around the galaxy scooping it up before a bunch of Romulans and Klingons nuked the planets after taking samples. Turned out it wasn't plans for a superweapon, much to everyone's disappointment but the Federation.

Have you read the book? I did, i thought it was good. Some of the evidence was astounding, some seemed skewed. Rather than point out that the author is a nut-job, we should discuss the evidence he offers.Its just that the first few posts in this thread are, 'nope, no evidence, didn't happen...I've read some of the evidence, it is there, I don't have time right now to type a whole post on it but I could get around to it if the replies are gonna be something other than, that author is a wacko. Never heard of them. Don't have time right now to look them up.

can we get back to the topic and stop talking about star trek

(Sorry admins, just one more off-topic post from me.) It was.Another double episode in TNG that I particularly like is the one where Picard is responsible for an anomaly that grows backward in time and will (in the past) ultimately prevent the beginning of life on earth. (Time reversal has a funny effect on the use of verb tenses when you have to describe things.)A very amusing scene is when Q, the funniest character of the entire series, takes Picard back to primordial earth and shows him a pool of goo. In the sky the phenomenon has taken on frightening proportions.Here's the script for that scene:

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We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. - Richard Dawkins

Von Daniken is the "was God an astronaut" guy. David Rohl is a maverick Egyptologist who wants to drastically rewrite Egyptian chronology.All I can say about Hancock is to ask whether you've checked out his ideas. Everything I've seen indicates that his dealing with the evidence is selective to say the least. If you've not checked Hancock's claims in reliabe sources then all I can say is that seems quite convincing if read uncritically. Yet I hardly think that you would agree with the ideas in there (it was the inspiration for The Da Vinci Code).d

Did you read the book?Would you like to discuss the evidence for an ancient civilization? we could do that here in this thread, if you're willing. Where are you refering to with 'there'?What was the inspiration for The DVC?I wouldn't disagree with an idea simply because it is anti-catholic. I've checked out some but not all. I don't believe everything he says. He did present some compelling evidence for the existance of a pre ice age civilization with technology advanced enough to traverse the planet.

The sort of guys that sound convincing until you hear a rebuttal by someone who looked at ALL the evidence instead of just the one that fits their theory..Apart from the blatant lies(I remember Von Daniken's claim that there was some obelisk or something of an 'unknown metal' that resisted to all and everything. When someone actually made the effort to check it out, it turned out to be plain old iron, rusty as hell LOL(the details are probably wrong, but that was the gist of it)Catalogue them alongside the Face on Mars...

I've read some of Hancock's material, watched a TV program he made about his ideas - and I've read some of his critics.My previous message seems to be mutilated - it referred to the Book which is sort of interesting but not one I would trust as a reliable source. But if read without a very skeptical mind it could be quite convincing.So far as I am aware there is certainly evidence that Neolithic societies were more advanced in some ways than e would think, but much of what Hancock claims is bunk. His cncient technological civilisation is a fantasy.k