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Author Topic:   What has evolution theory produced?
Brad McFall
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Message 30 of 32 (74084)
12-18-2003 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by JonF
12-18-2003 7:51 AM


Re: micro, macro again?
Are you saying that a response to you must remand some kind of common notion of "education" for finishing the learning of any given creationist in any time in history?? If you were suggesting that the creationist (any) who writes a 200 year history of how views on current creationist speciation exist (in the creationist's tradition)then I dont think THAT is that impossible that does seem to come to my mind if I must define "educated" based on some 1930or 40 standard. Are we assuming any more than the ability to communicate here???

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Brad McFall
Member (Idle past 5053 days)
Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 32 of 32 (74367)
12-19-2003 8:40 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by JonF
12-18-2003 12:27 PM


Re: micro, macro again?
Thank you,
I had not realized that this was possibly a very narrow issue but I will look at little harder at JPs threading connected to this discussion. There may be a broad issue here as after listening to SJ GOULD being interviewed for "A Glorious Accident" it is clear the issue of SPECIES CHANGE in a single or few generations COULD be part of what indeed baraminology is becoming specificaly if there is indeed more heterogeneity and not homogenity proceeding cultural counter to Gould's view on consciousness specifically if one was thinking of " developemental progress" and "predictive necesity" but again I will need to look a little harder if this applies to you and JP etc as to any old species denial. The link you provided will indeed make this less ambiguous. You should know that I will be comparing this EC to Zimmer claim that the "conflict" did not result in a "new generation of creationists" well....we got EC ones right or rather the emergence of it's arisen expression.
I do not have my copy of NUMBERS with me to see what you might also if other have been saying but I did not recall that reading of Price there that I had to take HIM as the authority in creationism on speices but rather only the Price-Clark difference which is ecologically difficult as one would be if one understood my own understanding of Gould's use of "ecology". This is why I will be listening quite closely to what baraminologist have to say about motion of organisms before and after the flood for it is clear that as to homogenity heteofore Gould with his idea of LOCAL DARWINIAN Action as to ecology does not in the broad distinguish small and large RANGES which local vs Global floods inclines the thought quite quickly enough. One is left to Guess with GOuld.
Again, Thanks - this is one of the better kinds of posts I have been able to read into lately. JP can not be ignored in the aplaud mind you once again. I probably dont need to tell you that.

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