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Topic: Correlation Among Various Radiometric Ages
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Casey Powell 
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Message 31 of 61 (374204)
01-03-2007 8:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 28 by Coragyps
01-03-2007 8:49 PM
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Re: Bump for JesusFighter
Right.....there's no age measuring tool for rocks. Thanks for agreeing  .
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Percy
Member Posts: 22484 From: New Hampshire Joined: 12-23-2000 Member Rating: 4.8
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Re: Blinded Tests?
The way radiometric dating works is that a parent element such as Potassium-40 ( 40K) decays to a daughter element such as Argon-40 ( 40K). The longer a rock containing 40K remains in the ground, the more of it decays to 40Ar. Geologists can determine how long a rock has been in the ground by measuring the ratio of 40K to 40Ar. K/Ar dating is just one of many radiometric dating techniques. There are a number of factors affecting the accuracy of radiometric dating, such as the presence of some daughter element when the rock first forms. Radiometric dating can only be effective when these factors are either absent or can be adjusted for. The accuracy of the dating methods has been confirmed generally by the law of superposition (deeper layers always date older), and by correlation with each other. For example, some rocks can be dated using both K/Ar and Rb/Sr dating. In addition there is the isochron dating technique that produces graphs of the correct structure only if the sample is radiometrically valid. Now that I've set a rough context, what is it specifically that you believe is the problem with radiometric dating? --Percy
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Casey Powell
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Message 33 of 61 (374206)
01-03-2007 8:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 28 by Coragyps
01-03-2007 8:49 PM
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Re: Bump for JesusFighter
Dedronchronology doesn't do much better really.
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Casey Powell
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Message 34 of 61 (374208)
01-03-2007 8:53 PM
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Reply to: Message 32 by Percy
01-03-2007 8:52 PM
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Re: Blinded Tests?
Face it my friend....your "dating" methods really suck.....I don't know how else to put it really. They don't directly measure the ages of rocks. Edited by JesusFighter, : No reason given.
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 757 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Elephants have never been known to barf significant quantities of samarium-147, so I don't see the significance here, no. You have no idea what I'm even talking about, do you, JF?
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Casey Powell
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Message 36 of 61 (374210)
01-03-2007 8:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 30 by DrJones*
01-03-2007 8:51 PM
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I base it on the fact that there are no direct measuring tools for dating anything at all. So spout out all of the "dating" methods that you want here.
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Casey Powell
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Message 37 of 61 (374211)
01-03-2007 8:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 35 by Coragyps
01-03-2007 8:54 PM
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Its a nice way of saying dog crap!
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Percy
Member Posts: 22484 From: New Hampshire Joined: 12-23-2000 Member Rating: 4.8
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Hi JesusFighter, Your message is a cut-n-paste from The Radiometric Dating Game. The Forum Guidelines require that you provide attribution. --Percy
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2285 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 8.3
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I base it on the fact that there are no direct measuring tools for dating anything at all.
We do have our giant squishy delicious brains to use to figure out a method to use the measuring instruments we do have to determine the ages of various objects.
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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Casey Powell
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Message 40 of 61 (374214)
01-03-2007 8:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 38 by Percy
01-03-2007 8:56 PM
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Okay fair enough.
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Casey Powell
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Message 41 of 61 (374215)
01-03-2007 8:58 PM
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Reply to: Message 39 by DrJones*
01-03-2007 8:57 PM
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So make believe the dates! Great for "just-so" story making.
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Admin
Director Posts: 13024 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002 Member Rating: 1.9
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Hi JesusFighter, I'm going to give you an hour off to examine the Forum Guidelines. Pay particular attention to rules 4, 7 and 10.
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2285 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 8.3
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So make believe the dates!
What evidence do you have to claim that the dates are "make believe"?
Great for "just-so" story making.
As opposed to an old book of collected stories written by mulitple authors?
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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iceage
Suspended Member (Idle past 5937 days) Posts: 1024 From: Pacific Northwest Joined: 09-08-2003
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JF so far you have displayed....
Ignorance
Arrogance
Plagiarism (fraud)
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 757 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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I base it on the fact that there are no direct measuring tools for dating anything at all. None known to the poster using the name "Jesus Fighter," that is. He's been reading too many creationist websites to learn of any. Tree rings. Lake varves. Ice varves. Ocean-bottom varves. Those are ones you yourself could count, JF. No tools required.
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