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Author Topic:   Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1
Coragyps
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Message 431 of 1498 (733748)
07-20-2014 10:15 PM
Reply to: Message 430 by OS
07-20-2014 8:56 PM


Argon is a "noble gas" or an "inert gas". It has a full shell of valence electrons. It reacts chemically with pretty much nothing at all, even under pretty extreme conditions. It may well be very stable "in its containment" but only if it is trapped in a cage of atoms that are bonded to each other. It will not form bonds of its own in any plausible geological setting.
It won't bounce far.

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Message 438 of 1498 (755533)
04-09-2015 7:51 AM
Reply to: Message 437 by OS
04-09-2015 7:32 AM


I have thought that out, yes. Argon atoms are born right there in the rock when potassium-40 atoms decay.

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Coragyps
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Message 445 of 1498 (755551)
04-09-2015 10:57 AM
Reply to: Message 441 by OS
04-09-2015 9:07 AM


Who is "they?" Goblins?
Cooling of molten rock can cause the formation of crystals - and slowly, if the rock cools slowly down underground. Potassium-40 decays very slowly. If an atom of it decays after the crystal it is in has formed, the resultant argon atom can get trapped.
Is there something unclear there?

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Coragyps
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Message 474 of 1498 (755800)
04-11-2015 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 473 by OS
04-11-2015 5:00 PM


Re: OS and tree rings
Nothing here has explained why you like using biggish words like "spectroscopy" without any faint clue what they mean, either.

"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken

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Coragyps
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Message 479 of 1498 (755837)
04-12-2015 9:31 AM
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04-11-2015 5:19 PM


Re: OS and tree rings
I'm a chemist, OS. I sort of know some of the basic techniques. You are the participant here who seems to be a bit out at sea.

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Coragyps
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Message 691 of 1498 (826992)
01-15-2018 1:44 PM
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01-15-2018 1:29 PM


Re: Correlations Correlations Correlations
Marie Curie and her friends and associates are well over a century ahead of you on this, Creation. The paths of nuclear decay, and the paths that don’t get followed, were pretty well worked out by 1950. Old news, in other words.

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Coragyps
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Message 705 of 1498 (827071)
01-16-2018 5:04 PM
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01-15-2018 4:02 PM


Re: Correlations Correlations Correlations
Lots of relation. If the only source of an isotope is, say, in the decay chain from uranium 235, that’s where it had to have come from. Unless, I guess, it was planted by Satan to deceive mankind, like some say fossils were.

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Message 908 of 1498 (842033)
10-25-2018 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 907 by RAZD
10-25-2018 10:24 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
I vote for intentionally misrepresentating stuff he doesn’t understand.

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Coragyps
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Message 1082 of 1498 (843285)
11-15-2018 8:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1081 by creation
11-15-2018 7:46 PM


Re: Prometheus evidence vs fantasy, Prometheus 4 fantasy 0
Creation, I’m really fairly certain that this whole issue of C14 dating does NOT, in actual fact, rest on whether or not a person who has studied it pretty extensively does, or does not, post some pictures you want to see on some corner of the Internet. I’m going to bet that the pictures you want were published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal perhaps back when I was in high school. I’m pretty sure they didn’t make it on to the Internet then, but they did get into a library. ( That’s the big building that has a large herd of books inside, over there on the college campus.)

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Coragyps
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Message 1092 of 1498 (843409)
11-17-2018 1:06 PM
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11-16-2018 12:35 PM


Re: Prometheus evidence vs fantasy, Prometheus 4 fantasy 0
I don’t know if you noticed, but 5480 is a larger number than 4500.

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Coragyps
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Message 1229 of 1498 (844331)
11-28-2018 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1228 by edge
11-28-2018 10:27 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Oh, while you’re at it, creation, your comments on how other elements transform into iridium, in either this nature on in your previous nature? With a little detail, please.

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Coragyps
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Message 1282 of 1498 (876848)
05-29-2020 12:32 PM
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05-29-2020 11:31 AM


Re: Your problem: no correlations should exist
Hi, dad! Welcome aboard!
Those rudists are the rudest, aren’t they? Contradicting your claims of fast-growing trees in Genesis! The nerve! Which verses say that? I don’t remember......

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Coragyps
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Message 1306 of 1498 (876935)
05-30-2020 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1301 by dad
05-30-2020 12:37 PM


Re: Your problem: no correlations exist independent of your beliefs.
Dad, please propose a mechanism, any mechanism, in any former nature you prefer, in which a tree can or would grow multiple rings every day. How does that happen? Was in winter several times daily back then, and trees shed their leaves on the odd hours?
I’m seriously asking - how does that happen?

"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken

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Coragyps
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Message 1384 of 1498 (878892)
07-06-2020 7:39 PM


Dad, why don’t you go read the first pages of this very thread. RAZD answered nearly all your technical or semi-techical questions before you even got here. And he answered them in detail, with references to the published work where they were studied.
After you do that, you could perhaps shut up and go home.

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Coragyps
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Posts: 5553
From: Snyder, Texas, USA
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Message 1461 of 1498 (879587)
07-18-2020 1:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1460 by ringo
07-18-2020 12:41 PM


Re: boo hoo
Watch out, Ringo! Each passing day the news makes it look more and more like orcs really do exist!
Edited by Coragyps, : No reason given.

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