marc9000 writes:
It's not? With the slogan of "The Miracles of Science"
Sure, the application of science, also known as engineering.
But Dupont doesn't say "The Miracles of Engineering".
Science is a subject. Just like the study of a language, or history, or mathematics, or many other things. All those subjects can and do provide knowledge that science can't provide. Science has long been controlled by people who choose to use it as a weapon against religion. The only way they can successfully do that is by taking it beyond its bounds, taking where it interferes with and conflicts with knowledge of other subjects.
Dupont science is just as atheistic as any kind of real science.
Atheism
declares there is no God. Dupont's use of science doesn't declare that at all. "Secular" best describes what they do. Secular is what science is supposed to be. And it should STOP when it gets near other subjects. But it long ago quit doing that. Why? Could it be power and money?
One cannot do science in a field of gods. It must be atheistic in the sense that it has nothing to do with a supernatural agent who could muck things up at will.
But it HAS something to do with a supernatural agent when it mocks it like you just did, or declares it doesn't exist, or is insignificant.
And who is agonizing over it? I mean, besides YECs?
It was an AED who started this thread, and spent many hours in this thread and others trying to make a convincing argument for it. It's safe to say that AED's have spent much more time trying to convince as many people as possible that the earth is old than have YEC's tried to show the earth is young. The reason is simple, Darwinist's HAVE to have an old earth, the earth's age isn't as critical to YEC's. It is possible that the earth is old, yet has not been in its current perfect orbit around the sun for nearly that long. Any scenario like that can fit with YEC, it can't fit with AED. That's the reason for the AED agonizing, it requires near perfection in the earth's climate for millions of years.
Aren't you the least bit curious about the earth and the universe?
Yes, I did a little "model building" here years ago. I'm not going to search for it, but the AED's here had a fit, I remember that. I showed how if the earth was scaled down to the size of a grain of sand, located in New York City, one light-year away would be about as far as Atlanta Georgia. The nearest star to earth, about 4 light-years away, would be well out over the Pacific ocean from NY City. We can do some testing and falsifying concerning the activities of our own solar system, but beyond that, the distances are too great for it to be science. It's fun to guess about what might be going on, but guessing is all it is.
And, once again they stress the development of markets, value-added solutions, etc. Science and technology are development to them. The business is selling goods.
Consequently, they are not trying to 'prove' anything.
But there is a big difference in what they do versus atheist philosophy like how old the earth might be, or how all of reality can be explained with only rearrangement processes.
Today's scientific community is trying to seamlessly combine 2 distinctively different processes in science, one here-and-now materials-science, versus atheist philosophy. That way when anything they propose, including liberal politics, is questioned by anyone whose knowledge is in subjects other than science, those questioners can then be accused of being "anti science".
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