Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1

Let us guess, you would fight a real good fight if it wasn't beneath you to step in the ring. Sure.

Too funny. Listen, do you have a learning disability? Do you need to get a grown up to read the responses to you? There are no missing isotopes. The fact that there are the same waste products as a modern reactor creates show it was a same state reaction.We have the evidence, once again we win.There was no magic dunks and resurfacing.Once again, we have the evidence and so we win.It really is so simply but thank you for playing and better luck next time.

Another silly absurd assertion. You have NO evidence that there was a former nature -- it's fantasy.What you have claimed -- with NO evidence to support it -- is that rings grown in a couple days would look like annual rings. They don't: Tree growth slows down but doesn't stop over several days period, tree growth does stop at annual points due to climate ecology.The difference between the double ring shown and the annual ring shown demonstrates this. All you would get would be a series of double rings without the precise character of an annual ring.And you would need a transition which would show up. It doesn't.EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : st

LINK... as was provided in Message 654 that you replied to with this silly post.song an dance indeed.Enjoy

That's what we've been telling you. You need to LOOK at reality, not just prattle that reality was different in the past. Again, if you want to claim that the "current nature" is different from the "past nature", you have to have evidence. Show us some evidence. You can claim that pigs could fly in the past but you need evidence to back up your claim. Unfortunately for you, all of the evidence we have shows that the "past nature" of the earth was the same as the "current nature".

Look again. Creationist nonsense has been kicked out of the schools time and time again. It's YOUR world that is being rocked.

False, you have no idea what rings grown fast in the forner nature would or should look like! Your attempted point is that if the nature was the same, THEN fast grown rings would look a certain way.You guys are not here to debate but to preach!

You are not here to debate but to air hatred of God and Christians.

Either try to evidence your claimed nature in the past or you may not use it in models. Period. Evermore.

I see something about a short lived isotope within rocks. Is your attempted point that there had to be decay because something was in a rock? Be clear. You see, when forces and laws come into being, atoms obey those forces wherever they are, I would think. If our present nature came to exist after the stuff was in a rock, explain why the new forces would not act on on that stuff anyhow?

Almost everybody I know is a Christian. I don't hate them.If you want to discuss Christianity or the Bible, we have threads for that. You're clearly out of your depth in the science threads.

You're just repeating yourself. Try learning how science works before making a fool of yourself in the science forums.

To anyone having some actual point of discussion or debate....I will check my blog.I am suspending EVC from my posts for a few weeks or maybe forever, we'll see.end transmission

Calling science and objective empirical evidence fables doesn't make it so, rather it exposes a petulant desperate ignorance on the part of the poster -- he must make science seem like his vapid religious beliefs or else his world crumbles.Unfortunately -- for him -- reality is unaffected by his absurd fantasy, and we can only call it fantasy as there is no support anywhere else (it's only in his mind).In this fantasy world pink unicorns exist and they poop pure gold. He can't show this is not so.In this fantasy world pigs fly, as Ringo mentioned, and their droppings are manna. He can't show that this is not so.In this fantasy world the earth is the center of the solar system and the solar system is the center of the universe. He cannot show that even this is not so.etcetcetcBecause the problem when you retreat into a fantasy world to maintain beliefs that are falsified in the real world/universe nothing in known, everything is illusion ... even existence.Including those beliefs you thought you were protecting -- without support you have nothing. Neutrinos interacting with detectors deep in underground caverns make more of a ripple than silly fantasy beliefs.So sorry, no. Nothing you have said rises to any kind of challenge to science.FAIL #37Delusion is delusion.Ignorance is ignorance.We can talk about cognitive dissonanceand we can talk about the Dunning Kruger EffectIf we were interested in evaluating your abilities and knowledge ...... but we aren't.We just use you as a tool to explain science to the other readers of these threads and to show by example how much more complete and integrated and interactive science is compared to creationism in general and starman fantasy delusions in particular.So thank you for the opportunities you provide to expose the empty pathetic claims so that we can teach people the pitfalls of such delusions while science offers a consistent view of the world.For example, you claim your imaginary flood occurred at the KT boundary, which means that your fantasy before time has to extend passed this boundary ... when does it end? Yesterday? You can't show it doesn't.Because this event is marked by an iridium layer around the world, marking a unique and very distinctive point in time even with relative dating, and this means all the counting layers of dendrochronology, varves, ice and calcite, etc. ... ALL occurred AFTER this point in time.And it means you throw away the usual creationist nonsense of things being different before the imaginary flood, ... and thus you have NO mechanism to explain how it transitions from "before" time to present time.You are in an axe fight without an axe, and behave just like Monty Python's Black Knight ... Entertaining at first, but then it gets boring from the repetition with no additional value.Enjoy

The old claim victory and run away from the overwhelming evidence that your assertions have no value. The inevitable result of having such a poor argument that you have no evidence to support it and are reduced to just repeating yourself ad nauseum.Meltdown fail #38 ... ... and now you are reduced to claiming that every bit of evidence in the "forner (sic) nature" looks just exactly like what occurs today, and that it is indistinguishable from evidence occurring in the "present nature" ... or to be more specific, the distinction is useless, pointless, irrelevant, and unimportant in any way shape or form.FAIL #39. Says the poster with the fantasy religious beliefs who has done nothing else but preach his fantasy.No, we are here to [i]educate[i] people (not you, you're impervious), the difference is that you can look at the evidence and follow the logic of evidence based arguments to reach consistent conclusions. Science is repeatable, even starting from scratch. So you glanced at, but did not read, and even your quickie comprehension is lacking. You have confused Polonium with Uranium. Uranium is not a "short lived" isotope by any stretch of imagination:

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Uranium half-life

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... The half-life of uranium-238 is about 4.47 billion years and that of uranium-235 is 704 million years, making them useful in dating the age of the Earth.

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So you just claimed that millions and billions of years is a short lived period, because apparently you didn't read beyond the first paragraph. ROFLOL. That's what happens when you don't read for comprehension, just for troll points. That is not debating in good faith, heck it isn't even debating. What a joke.Further you just claimed that the halos being in the rocks is explained by them happening in the "present nature" ... which make that several hundred million years, and your claims of a "before" time become even more irrelevant and ludicrous.But there is a lot more involved than just this aspect of the uranium halos. Your failure to get beyond the first paragraph means you didn't even get to the juicy parts.FAIL #40 Make it forever, you won't be missed. You add nothing.Enjoy