Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1

Too bad for you that you only mutually relate all things to ONE belief. All roads lead only to that one road...blind alley!

You look at the heavens FROM the fishbowl and you imagine all the universe operates on fishbowl time and space and rules. You concoct models of what the unknown is like based solely on current fishbowl knowledge!

Your attempted insults to God and the holy people of old have no value except to expose where you really come from/

How do you know iridium was NOT with water??

What in tarnation do you think some volcanologist has to do with fountains of the deep mentioned in the bible?? Utterly ridiculous.

You claim the events were millions of years ago, but that is solely based on same nature in the past belief! Got anything else?
You claim you know that the Yucatan impact was from above and offer no intelligent conversation, or support or detail. Instead we see some drooling insults to record of God, and allusions to some experts that you can't cite, or explain what they say!

You conflate a world of religious nonsense with a world of evidence. Lurkers, behold the fallen state of the defenders of the evo faith here! Pathetic. The once might have fallen.

That's it---you are gone. Game over. Evos won....

You look at the heavens FROM the fishbowl and you imagine all the universe operates on fishbowl time and space and rules.

As the available evidence shows, the same physics, the same "nature", operates both our fishbowl and the rest of the universe. This fishbowl is just one small part of a grander universe all operating, apparently, from the same universal rules. And you can't show us anything different.

You concoct models of what the unknown is like based solely on current fishbowl knowledge

We're pretty smart fish.

Your attempted insults to God and the holy people of old have no value except to expose where you really come from/

We cannot insult what isn't there.

It is not the ancient goat herders of 3000 years ago who made up stories in an attempt to fathom the workings of this world with their limited-to-non-existent knowledge that I insult, it is those in the present whose own intellect, in the face of 3000 years of advancing human knowledge, is so limited they believe the ancient goat herder stories as if these stories were the pinnacle of human knowledge. Like the knowledge acquired in the last 3000 years by this species is nothing but some grand conspiracy against the lesser knowledge of the bronze age instead of an advancing correction to that knowledge.

I insult you, not them.

[abe] You really need to stop pissing off Phat.

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Too bad for you that you only mutually relate all things to ONE belief. All roads lead only to that one road...blind alley!

There is no evidence of a change in nature, no start point, no measure of change, nothing. This is no explanation for the correlations.

The Correlations win again.

Your biggest problem is that you have castrated what you accept as reasonable argument to such a degree that you can't say anything about it. No correlations should exist -- evidence that you are wrong -- as everything should be jumbled, and you cannot trust any narrative that comes from outside your bubble, not one ... including Christian creation.

One trick pony.

Enjoy

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How do you know iridium was NOT with water??

This is gibberish. What do you mean "with water"?

What in tarnation do you think some volcanologist has to do with fountains of the deep mentioned in the bible?? Utterly ridiculous.

If something were erupted from the core of the earth, it would seem that volcanologists would be involved.

You claim the events were millions of years ago, but that is solely based on same nature in the past belief! Got anything else?

Actually, there were many such events, including the much younger Eltanin impact which also yielded a large harvest of iridium.

You claim you know that the Yucatan impact was from above and offer no intelligent conversation, or support or detail.

I went over that in an earlier post. Please have the courtesy of reading and attempting to understand.

Instead we see some drooling insults to record of God, and allusions to some experts that you can't cite, or explain what they say!

This has nothing to do with any god. Your own posts prove that.

You conflate a world of religious nonsense with a world of evidence.

Heh, heh ...

Lurkers, behold the fallen state of the defenders of the evo faith here! Pathetic. The once might have fallen.

Hadn't observed this, but we note your opinion.

creation writes: I have grasped the evidences that you impose the one same belief upon! None of them nor all of them are any better than the one belief they sit on.

You have completely missed the point of this thread.

Even if you could successfully challenge one or two of the dating methods - and you can't - that accomplishes nothing. The thread is about the correlation of ALL of the dating methods: ALL of the dating methods give the same answers.

Even if you could discredit each and every one of the dating methods - and you have failed miserably to even scratch the surface on ANY of them - but even if you could discredit ALL of them individually, you'd still have to produce a cogent reason for them all being wrong in exactly the same way.

It's like five hundred people trying to go from New York to Los Angeles by five hundred different routes and every single one of them winding up in Pensacola by mistake. You creationists are fond of complaining about the odds against abiogenesis and evolution; try calculating the odds on that one.

try calculating the odds on that one.

I get 1 followed by 77 zeros.

I figure I would have to personally examine the tree rings very closely to arrive at a meaningful theory.

That would mean going to where the evidence is. Failing that your best option is:

1. Learn the basics about dendrochronology, and
   
2. Look at pictures that are available.

You can start here: The Age of the Earth v3p1, message 7: Dendrochronology Basics

and look at pictures like this one:

Prometheus section with over 4800 annual rings.

Also see Message 1010 and Message 1070 for more pictures and information.

Enjoy

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ANCIENT TREE WITH RECORD OF EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD REVERSAL IN ITS RINGS DISCOVERED

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An ancient tree that contains a record of a reversal of Earth's magnetic field has been discovered in New Zealand. The tree—an Agathis australis, better known as its Māori name kauri—was found in Ngawha, on New Zealand's North Island, during excavation work for the expansion of a geothermal power plant, stuff.nz reports.

The tree, which had been buried in 26 feet of soil, measures eight feet in diameter and 65 feet in length. Carbon dating revealed it lived for 1,500 years, between 41,000 and 42,500 years ago.

"There's nothing like this anywhere in the world," Alan Hogg, from New Zealand's University of Waikato, told the website. "This Ngāwhā kauri is unique."

The lifespan of the kauri tree covers a point in Earth's history when the magnetic field almost reversed. At this time, the magnetic north and south went on an excursion but did not quite complete a full reversal.

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I haven't been able to find a paper.

https://research.unsw.edu.au/...or-chris-turney/publications
https://www.waikato.ac.nz/php/research.php?author=19522&m...

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Cool stuff.

Now if we can tie the tree rings to the climate patterns in the varve and ice layers ... then maybe we could introduce lines of magnetic change in the sea bed to the calculations of age.

Enjoy