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dad
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Message 1456 of 1481 (879545)
07-17-2020 7:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1455 by AZPaul3
07-17-2020 4:07 PM


Re: Ignobased perspective
quote:
Show me a ghost.
I thought they were invisible?

quote:
If it is in this universe then it is subject to scientific analysis
At least it is subject to being hammered into your fable molds and splattered with your beliefs and added to the impressive list of imaginary things your oversized ego want to take credit for.

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Message 1457 of 1481 (879548)
07-17-2020 11:07 PM
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07-17-2020 7:51 PM


Re: Ignobased perspective
You tell me. It's your ghost. How do *you* know it's there?

Factio Republicana delenda est.
I am antifa.

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Message 1458 of 1481 (879571)
07-18-2020 11:56 AM
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07-17-2020 11:07 PM


boo hoo
Science cannot date a spirit, or correlate their ages. They cannot say they exist or do not exist!

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AZPaul3
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Message 1459 of 1481 (879574)
07-18-2020 12:17 PM
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07-18-2020 11:56 AM


Re: boo hoo
That is because they are not real.

They are the figments of the weak minded religionist's delusions.


Factio Republicana delenda est.
I am antifa.

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Message 1460 of 1481 (879579)
07-18-2020 12:41 PM
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07-18-2020 11:56 AM


Re: boo hoo
dad writes:

Science cannot date a spirit, or correlate their ages. They cannot say they exist or do not exist!


That same logic would apply to leprechauns or orcs.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Message 1461 of 1481 (879587)
07-18-2020 1:55 PM
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07-18-2020 12:41 PM


Re: boo hoo
Watch out, Ringo! Each passing day the news makes it look more and more like orcs really do exist!

Edited by Coragyps, : No reason given.


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dad
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Message 1462 of 1481 (879596)
07-18-2020 5:12 PM
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07-18-2020 12:17 PM


Re: boo hoo
Before I cast off all of ancient history, and Scripture, and testimonies of millions of living people, there needs to be some sort of reason and evidence. You have statements of incredulity. Until then I will continue to think that all spirits matter.

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Message 1463 of 1481 (879604)
07-18-2020 6:19 PM
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07-18-2020 5:12 PM


Re: boo hoo
Before I cast off all of ancient history, and Scripture, and testimonies of millions of living people,

You don't need to cast off your delusions, science already has.

You cannot show a ghost, god, demon, or spirit and all those that have been supposed in the past have been debunked or are untenable as fairy tales without any corroboration.

Just like your "different nature" , your flud and your talking snake, these apparitions are the fanciful products of weak unsophisticated mental states and carry no reality in this universe.


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I am antifa.

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Message 1464 of 1481 (879611)
07-19-2020 12:30 AM


Has anyone seen the topic theme lately?
I'm pretty busy in the real world, so I'm not following things closely, BUT...

I'LL MAKE THIS AN OFFICIAL WARNING - ANY MESSAGES NOT HAVING SOME SORT OF CONNECTION TO THE TOPIC THEME MIGHT JUST TRIGGER A 2 DAY SUSPENSION OF THE POSTER.

Adminnemooseus


Or something like that©.

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Message 1465 of 1481 (879615)
07-19-2020 3:46 AM
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07-18-2020 6:19 PM


standing on the premises
Feel free to highlight some correlation that does not involve belief as the basis. All so called correlations I have seen here so far rest on belief and belief alone.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1466 of 1481 (879616)
07-19-2020 3:57 AM
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07-19-2020 12:30 AM


Re: Has anyone seen the topic theme lately?
Oh Great Big Beautiful Moose, inquiry.

By “topic” are we limited to, in this thread, “Age Correlations and An Old Earth”, or are we allowed the sub-threads like presently Message 1450, Message 1451 as the latest example and other sub-topics that periodically spring from the emergent properties of topic creep?

Better yet, it might be instructive if you could give us some examples of offending messages.


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I am antifa.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1467 of 1481 (879617)
07-19-2020 4:00 AM
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07-19-2020 3:46 AM


Re: standing on the premises
Not now, child, the gods are speaking to us.

Factio Republicana delenda est.
I am antifa.

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Message 1468 of 1481 (879619)
07-19-2020 5:37 AM
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07-19-2020 3:57 AM


Re: Has anyone seen the topic theme lately?
By “topic” are we limited to, in this thread, “Age Correlations and An Old Earth”, or are we allowed the sub-threads like presently Message 1450, Message 1451 as the latest example and other sub-topics that periodically spring from the emergent properties of topic creep?

1) Message should somehow touch on the age dating science.

2) At the minimum, message should at least touch on scientific methodology.

3) Message should not be irrelevant snark.

1450 and 1451 BARELY qualifies as meeting (2), but it would be nice if it had any real connection to (1).

Your new 1467 qualifies as being (3).

Better yet, it might be instructive if you could give us some examples of offending messages.

Might you find the most recent message in this topic, that actually does (1)? The recent quality of topic sure seems quite dismal to me.

dad is pretty much (understatement?) blathering nonsense. I think other members should post something of (1) or not respond at all. dad makes Faith look like a towering master of scientific reason. Is dad being successful at dragging the sciece side down to his level of discourse?

Maybe we need some activity at https://www.evcforum.net/dm.php?control=msg&t=15105

Adminnemooseus


Or something like that©.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1469 of 1481 (879627)
07-19-2020 9:24 AM
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07-19-2020 5:37 AM


Re: Has anyone seen the topic theme lately?
I have heard the words of He Who Has Antlers and I shall endeavor to comply.

Factio Republicana delenda est.
I am antifa.

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Message 1470 of 1481 (879646)
07-19-2020 12:50 PM
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07-12-2020 2:33 PM


Re: missing rings
You admit not knowing where the carbon samples were taken from, no? You assume it was from the pre 5000 deep rings

You really need to work on reading comprehension. I said "throughout the sequence". Which means from samples before and after 5,000 years. Do you really think professionals would 14C date only half the range?

Show us any tree that is several thousand years old, with carbon samples specifically taken from the area more than 5000 deep?

Why? We know that counting rings yielded many samples more than 5,000 years old. We know that 14C dating samples were taken from some of those trees and the 14C dates agreed with the ring-counting dates within a few percent. What difference would there be or knowledge gained by showing you a picture of a piece of wood?

How would I know there was any decay at all at the time?

You are forgetting key data. If there was no (or different) decay at the time the Universe would have been so fundamentally different that life as we know it would be impossible.. References given previously.

How would I know there was any decay at all at the time?

See above. I'm speaking of your fantasy of the most fundamental changes happening in the past, not today. Atoms would not have existed then if decay rates changed that much. Do you realize that atoms are essential for life as we know it?

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