sin and carbon 14 dating?

sorry, but that is nothing but a personal attack ("ad hominum") and not about the question asked. consider that the poster could be a child when answering any post and you might improve your attitude.Edited by RAZD, : .

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Actually, I think there may be some examples of highly spiritual and anointed environments affecting the aging process, and this experiment would be worth looking into.Exodus records that clothes did not wear out due to the glory of God.But you have to be careful. Just godliness is not going to stop the aging process. Godly people die too.It's going to have to be a very miraculous environment with a specific anointing of what the Bible refers to as the Shekinah (sp?) glory.There may indeed be revival centers though where we could see this effect, and I think they may well indicate less aging and a reversal effect in the near vicinity, and it could be argued to validate the concept of the existence of sin, imo.But it's probably not going to just happen comparing a godly church or home with a whorehouse. You are going to have to find something a bit more unusual or stronger.If that type of anointing is present, you would see diseases disappear as well and miraculous healings. Maybe there is some way to place 2 identically aged materials in both environments and test them. That would be interesting.

Hi, RAZD, in answer to your question--'roos are always doin` it. They are the horniest critters around. Well, except for a certain lass I met in Sydney years ago. But I digress.Being a sinless evo, I decided to have my tree rings dated. Turns out I haven`t aged a bit since I was 38 y.o. Which was a fair way back.

How may we find these environments? I belive there's a place in
Siberia where they live to past 100, is this an anointed place?

There have been times during what might be termed "revivals" where a meeting place is so inundated with the anointing that signs and wonders, and miracles and healings occur.If you were to find such a spot where the normal parameters of the natural world were being bent so to speak by a strong anointing of the Holy Spirit, you could do your experiment.But it would probably be useless for scientists because, by and large, the scientific community is predisposed to reject such things out of hand, and would probably not allow any such studies to be published in their journals.But it would be of interest to the Christian community.

I said nothing about an experiment, you did.How can such a spot be found? What signs should I look for?

Actually, burning of carbon fuels probably started to screw things up, mostly during the industrial revolution.

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ok so now that is out of the way. my question is that the possibility that things errode quicker in an area of more sin than others? like what would happen if we had one thing (a piece of wood, etc.) carbon 14 it and they were the same now send one to Amsterdam, Holland in a homosexual whore house. and the other to a church that was in deep faith with GOD not to be confused with religion. were the attributes of the original church were seen. ok now send them there not to be touched sealed for a period of 5 or so years bring them back and carbon 14 them again and see what the difference is. if there is a gap then sin is proven and must be acounted for in the dating process if not then sin is either a:not realy there or b: does not affect the carbon 14 dating process. well there you go. my big idea. oh yeah hey praise GOD.

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This is crazy. Sin is not physical its not tangable it cant have an effect on the things you are talking about. Your argument is basically like saying happyness makes world spin faster, there is no reason an emotion would any effect on the laws of physics. Now sin isnt an emotion, i really dont know how to describe it but its in your mind, its not like sin radiates from your body as some sort of energy.

Hi Willietdog.A belated welcome to EvCForum!Just so you're aware, the person to whom you are responding is inactive, and apparently hasn't posted since 2004. This isn't to say you can't post to him/her, but I unless someone else wants to respond, I wouldn't hold your breath for a reply.Hint: If you look under the message number (top left), you'll see the date of the post to which you're responding.

There is big time misconception of what is a sin. The superstiticious aspect went away with the emergence of the OT laws: these were firmly based on scientific and logical subsequences. The supersticious factor, whereby an incurable desease was seen as a curse or occult spell, was dislodged with the OT's first instruction of malignancies such as leprosy, with its cure, treatment, ID and quarantine given - medicine, the first science, was introduced at this point.Sin is a crime, as with a judiciary law. Even the ritual sins are firmly based on scientific reasoning. Logically, the OT does not contain such advocations like, doomed to everlasting hell or being an infidel unless you sign the dotted line, giving no immunity by which group one belongs to. Instead, w/o mentioning any preferences to anyone, the OT declares: "ONLY THE SOUL THAT SINNETH IT SHALL PAY'.All laws accepted in the world's institutions come from the OT, including all judiciary and family laws - exclusively. These are based on logic - the only reason they were enshrined as laws and stand today. Those institutions which do not follow these laws are seen as operating outside the law.For the above reasons, sinful behaviour can effect conditions, because they are based on logic, and advocations of what is bad for humans and humanity. However, the effects may not be seen immediately but retrospctively: lightning does not strike immedtaely one commits a sin.

gb queries in the OP:

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"my question is that the possibility that things errode quicker in an area of more sin than others?"

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This experiment has already been performed with compelling results! The Shroud of Turin, which is known to be 2000 years old, shows a carbon 14 date around the 13th century, i. e., about 700 years old, indicating a radioactive decay rate only about 1/3 that of the average of materials used to calibrate the C14 dating system. Since Jesus was 1/2 god, 1/2 human (or, apparently, 2/3 god and 1/3 human), this all makes perfect scientific sense. On the other hand, Jesus was 100% free of sin (but NOT of temptation!), so erosion rates may be determined more by godliness that sin-freeness. In any case, since most churches have annual drives to raise funds for repairs, rebuilding, and maintenance, it is obvious where the erosive powers of sin and satanism are most prevalent.

Where do you have evidence of this?

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It's sarcasm, man.Enjoy.

You must be an excellent satirist if your sarcastic remarks go over the
head of probably the most "sarcastic idiot" on this forum, ME!!!

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969