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Ihategod
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Message 64 of 94 (417113)
08-19-2007 3:04 PM


Question,
Isn't this all developed based on a uniformitarian philosophy?

I'm sure some admin or mod will say i'm off topic, and to side step the question. GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME A NEW FORUM NAME!

like "Evolution Think Tank", or "Evolution Circle Jerk" or perhaps "The Average Person Just Doesn't Grasp The Complexity or Understand The True Logical Behind Our Precious Evolution Fact/Lie" or "Were Obviously the Highest Evolved Unlike Those Niggers."


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Ihategod
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Message 69 of 94 (417162)
08-19-2007 7:31 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Chiroptera
08-19-2007 3:15 PM


Re: Question,
No. It is based on a uniformitarian assumption that can be (and has been) verified by the usual scientific methods.

Ok, again with the wording hoopla.
Assumption:
5 a : an assuming that something is true b : a fact or statement (as a proposition, axiom, postulate, or notion) taken for granted

see:
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/philosophy

uniformitarianism has been verified? Stop the presses! I'd like to see the article on that. You really like saying science. It's like your religious mantra. Because if SCIENCE says it! What science? Science is your god and idol. lol

What about the ww2 planes in greenland?> Ice core bad for HOE.
http://creationwiki.org/WWII_airplanes_are_now_beneath_thousands_of_%22annual%22_ice_layers

Are you a troll?

: a dwarf or giant in Scandinavian folklore inhabiting caves or hills

Yes.

How does uniformitarianism not apply to this thread? We are talking about dating, so the fundemental aspect of radiometric dating is based on a religious worldview. Your religiousity scares me.


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Ihategod
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Message 72 of 94 (417174)
08-19-2007 8:18 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Chiroptera
08-19-2007 7:48 PM


Re: Question,
What about the ww2 planes in greenland?

What about them?

So by this logic how would you know which ice rings came from what glacier if I were to say mix them up? The argument from talk.orgins proves nothing in fact it makes little rebuttal.

Response 1. Is a red herring. The method of dating isn't in question. The fact that airplanes 50 years ago would date to millions of years is the question.

Response 2. I agree with the top half. Yes the planes were buried under snow. The fact they only take samples from "stable ice fields" is erroneous, explain to me how antartica isn't an active glacier. And in the last sentence its uniformitarianism all over again. How do they know that it's always been like that? Short answer: they don't

Response 3. Couldn't be melt layers ;) that would ruin the theory. wait...., they are melt layers! The assumption is that it's summer/winter etc., not hot/cold.


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Ihategod
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Message 73 of 94 (417175)
08-19-2007 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Chiroptera
08-19-2007 7:48 PM


Re: Question,
Yes, your posts basically are. It will be interesting to see whether you are capable of making an argument based on facts and logic, or whether disposable one-liners are all you have.

argument ad hominem. STAY ON TOPIC or else molbiochick will FREAK OUT!

Sure has. Every prediction made in geology, evolutionary biology, cosmology and the like is based on the assumption of the laws of physics and natural processes behaving as we understand them. So, tests of geologic, evolutionary, and cosmologic theories are tests of uniformitarianism. And so, every time a prediction is actually observed to be confirmed, the uniformitarian assumption is confirmed.

First, whateva! That's assumptions on assumption on assumptions. I could predict the future of a character if I was writing the book. Means nothing.
Points should be supported with evidence and/or reasoned argumentation.

evidence please.


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Ihategod
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Message 74 of 94 (417178)
08-19-2007 8:29 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by molbiogirl
08-19-2007 7:42 PM


Re: Question,

Another content free post.

Please address a prior post per Forum Rule 4:

Points should be supported with evidence and/or reasoned argumentation. Address rebuttals through the introduction of additional evidence or by enlarging upon the argument. Do not repeat previous points without further elaboration. Avoid bare assertions.

And bear in mind Rule 10:

Always treat other members with respect. Argue the position, not the person. Avoid abusive, harassing and invasive behavior. Avoid needling, hectoring and goading tactics.

Please limit your remarks to radiometric dating.

Why you run your mouth-fingers, your also not on topic. MODS HELP! IS SHE A MOD??! THEN WHY IS SHE ACTING LIKE ONE!?

I would like to introduce you to a relating topic. HERE


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Ihategod
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Message 80 of 94 (417243)
08-20-2007 12:44 AM
Reply to: Message 79 by Chiroptera
08-19-2007 11:15 PM


Re: Question,
Your absolutely right.

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