Israel the blessing or the curse

Did you ever think that perhaps God put George W.Bush in office. God has to judge our nation when our nation forced Israel to give up land. Israel too its said might be judged due 2/3 voted to forsake gaza however 1/3 will be left after the apocalypse.

Think of it the dark ages was it due to the curse like when spain got taken over by the Papacy the jews fled to britian and were welcomed by the christians of the british isles. Then after world war 1 was won by the british the british broke agreements with the jews and by 1948 the british empire was no more. hmmmm....... no way, britians have to abide by EU law they have become like one of a colony where other nations decide how they should live, etc...____________________________________________________________The structure of the EU today is thus :
A nation elects a govt, that govt elect their MEP (of which the people have no say) who then goes to Brussels and approve legislation that their nation will never hear about untill they are forsed to adhere to it...
Now this doesn't seem altogether fair. Mostly when foreign nations who have no knowladge of another nation have such power to decide how their live.http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=2007090116431...Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.

Don't you think it's strange that all those whirlwinds and storms are consistently targeted at areas that are obeying God's word as stated in the Bible, while areas that are not (like the Northeastern US, Canada, the UK, etc) are not regularly lambasted by natural disasters?Why do natural disasters bear all of the signs of being affected and caused by nothing more than natural phenomenon? Why are their victims just as often fundamentalist Christians as not?Why don't we see the whole "fire and brimstone" deal written about with Sodom and Gomorrah?Why haven't I been struck down with lightning yet?

Well if God did put GWB in office then it's his fault that GWB forced Israel to give up land. Maybe he should aim a hurricane at himself, though given his crappy aim and general impotence he'd probably just mess up an angel's wings a little.Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.

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There is also the devil the god of this world who knows his time is short! rev 12:12READ WHAT IT SAYS In "2 Cor 4/4": "King James Bible"
In whom the "God of this world" hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
{Remember God cast Satan out of Heaven because Satan wanted to be as powerfull as GOD.}The kingdoms of this world will not become the kingdoms of the Lord until after the seventh angel sounds his trumpet akjv rev 11:15 akjv rev 12:17 the great day of wrath starts after the christians are raptured, reaped those of the first resurrection. The kingdoms of the earth at this point of time is said to be the kingdoms of the Lord. Its said if the Lord would not of shortened these days no flesh would of survived. “If those days were not cut short no flesh would be saved. But for the sake of the chosen ones, those days will be cut short.” Mark 13:20. He probably loves you but not the sin. We've all sinned and fallen short but in Christ. forgiveness! it says as far as the east is from the west that might well be infinity?akjv john 3:16 & 21Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.

All empires in history have come to an inevitable end, and we're far more prosperous without it, so that's yet another blessing from God.Has it never occured to you, johnboy, that most Jews in the world are far too well educated to believe in the silly mythologies of their ancestors, yet slow-brained hillbillies still retain those beliefs, which never belonged to their tribes anyway.The policy of not selling arms to Israel has widespread support amongst the European people, yet the U.S., much more supportive of Israeli expansionism, gets all the bad weather.Your hypothesis is either childish idiocy, or it means the U.S., the most Christian country in the western world, is worshipping the wrong God.Edited by bluegenes, : No reason given.

"Did you ever think that perhaps God put George W.Bush in office to punish us for something?" Wearing polyester/cotton clothes, most likely.Fixed it for you, John.

Stand back, kids! Folton is channeling Martinez!!!!

Giving aid to the palestinains when all they do is use the money to buy guns. They get their people to starve then ask for more money to buy weapons not food. Israel sends a shipment of food over the border and they fire missles at Israel. The nations of the world send food and they boast of the weapons they purchased from the aid given, I guess when Israel sent food they wanted money instead for what good is food it does not buy weapons. So they sent a few more missles Israels way.ISRAELI ARMY CONTINUES TO HELP GAZAN POPULATIONContrary to the untruths being told by some western news correspondents, and despite the volatile nature of the security situation in the Gaza Strip, the Israeli army (IDF) is continuing its efforts to provide help to the people of the Gaza strip. On Friday, for example, Israel sent hundreds of tons of food produce and medical supplies into Gaza via the Kerem Shalom crossing and transferred Palestinians injured in the recent Hamas-Fatah fighting into Israel for state-of-the-art medical treatment at Israeli hospitals.As thanks, Hamas last night fired ten missiles at IDF forces on the Israeli side of the Gaza border. There were no injuries.Mideast Dispatch Archive: Congratulations Hamas: Getting an opinion piece into NYT and WP on the same day is unprecedented----------------------------------------------------------------Even america sent aid to the victims in gaza however all that results is more weapons are purchased.HAMAS LEADER ADMITS: U.S. AID MONEY USED TO BUY GUNSThe online site of the leading German news weekly Der Spiegel yesterday interviewed senior Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahar, who boasted that Hamas was able to buy weapons using American aid money:Spiegel Online: “The militant wings of Fatah and Hamas have been fully armed over the last few months. Are these weapons still in circulation?”Zahar: “There are naturally very many weapons around now. Two years ago, one bullet in Gaza cost around 3.50 - now it would cost 35 cents. The American aid money has been translated into weapons. Thank you, America!”Mideast Dispatch Archive: Congratulations Hamas: Getting an opinion piece into NYT and WP on the same day is unprecedented If you believe that then move an become a resident of gaza where you can starve alongside with the palestinians so when the countries of europe send money for food your leaders boast about buying weapons with the aid money instead while you starve. Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.

You're missing the point, John. Your O.P. is about nations being punished by hurricanes because of political policies that go against what you see as the interests of Israel. The U.S. is more pro-Israeli than Europe, and the U.S. gets the hurricanes, not Europe.This doesn't mean that any God is punishing anyone for anything. It just means that your hypothesis is obviously superstitious rubbish.Atlantic hurricanes go according to well understood weather patterns, and it's often poor inoffensive Caribbean islands with very God-worshipping populations which take the worst "punishment".Haiti had the most deaths in the last storm, so you can work out what the people who died there did wrong, or just come to the conclusion that your hurricane God is a sadistic bastard.The reason your magic holy book tells you that the Jews are the chosen tribe of God is that the Jews invented your God. You're believing in someone else's racist invention.As for your naive analysis of the middle-east, why don't you go there and find out about things for yourself. I've been. And when you're there, you can ask yourself why the Holy land of that stupid Abrahamic God of the Jews, Christians and Muslims is in such an unholy mess.

Yes the US is perhaps the most blessed nation on the earth however your missing the point that its the The Devil is the Prince of the Power of the Air. Ephesians 2:1-2 Authorized Version devtil is prince of the power of the air that is the god of this world he knows his time is short thus in revelation 12:12 woe to the inhabitants of the earth because he and his angels in rev 12:15 know their time is short. If he is the prince of the power of the air and one thing he does is try to drown the woman which is those that have the testimony of Jesus Christ. rev 12:15-17.So only those massive hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes that suddenly came into being at the same moment in time as the US pushed Israel to give up land are believed to be judgements from God. The others like hurricane IKE appears can be credited to the Prince of the air which is the devil going after christians. Gustov went for new orleans the timing suggest it was about George Bush telling Israel not resettle contested area's so those resettling New Orleans had to flee for their lives. I suspect most disasters can be credited to the prince of the air that is satan the god of this world. Katrina, Gustov, and all the others that came into being with days of US policy about land for peace can be attributed to God not satan. I suppose you could say the devil is sadistic and agree what did they do wrong other than to believe in God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ! Its Gods plan to glorify his name, the land belongs to God not the prince of the air that is the devil that is as you say sadistic. Until the kingdoms of the earth become the kingdoms of the LORD the god of this world will seek to destroy not only Israel but all christians that have the testimony of JESUS CHRIST!Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, that's brilliant - love it Oh, wait, you're serious

Was that "prince of the air" or "prince of Bel-Air?" I'm not sure I heard you right.

So humans are pawns in a supernatural Chess game between God & Satan?

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Sheep not pawns! The Lord is already in the future in Jerusalem we've been told the Victory is the LORD's. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalitites, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spritural wickedness in high places. God told us the end from the beginning. Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. akjv rev 19:9 Are not the sheep the Saints following the Lord God in akjv Zechariah 14:5 akjv rev 19:14akjv Romans 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.